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Mar 17 2009 10:23am
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  Pack 1 pick 1:



Simply a bomb.

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I got a brainfart here obvisouly since its probably one of the worst picks here. There's the Tidehollow Strix,Goblin Deathraiders and the Kederekt Leviathan.

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I'm felling more of a Jund vibe and I don't value the Grixis Battlemage that high. Dragon Fodder is a good follow up to Caldera Hellion.

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Removal.

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Nice , it wheeled.

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I find this a very underrated card, I'm always happy to play 1 or 2.

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I took the Skeletonize for the same reason of the Dragon Fodder. If I felt Grixis I would have taken the Agony Warp.

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Probably a case could be made here about the Crumbling Necropolis but I'm always happy to play the beetlle.

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2 In color bombs in my deck. Very good.

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Took the removal here.

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I'm a little creature light and the Thrinax its a pretty good one.

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A pretty good deck with plenty of removal and good creatures. A bomb in Caldera Hellion and Rakka Mar.
 
Round1:

 

Round2:

Round3:

I didn't get the video from the first game but he only played out a couple of creatures while I Bashed with Rakka Mar and Scourge Devil with a Dark Temper to back it up.

 

See you next time,

Andrea Fonseca, Dust_ @MTGO

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30 Comments

Who needs mana fixing when by Metalman (not verified) at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 11:37
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Who needs mana fixing when your playing solid three colors...screw it. Just rely on drawing the land you need to cast your bombs with double red and only one fixer and win every game with them.

LOL.

This format is awesome.

-M

I dont actually get if its a by TheMiseDotCom at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 11:41
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I dont actually get if its a critic,but still I dont see a point.I didnt get the critic to the mana, since both the double red or green are on 4th or 4th turn. Having a Obelisk of Jund as fixing, a Elvish Visionary as cycling and Viscera dragger as well, I dont see the mana as a big problem to the deck.Of course I would have loved to have a Panorama or 2 but still even on paper and not playing,the deck seems quite solid.

I agree with the fixing by Anonymous (not verified) at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 18:35
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I agree with the fixing comment, you should have gotten on the crumbling necropolis or druid of animas. Certainly over the blister beatle.

great by Guinhenhas at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 11:38
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Great draft, great article... so I guess bombs do win drafts :P

Nice & comments by LOurs at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 11:53
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interesting draft
I mostly agree with your picks & your strategy strategy, however i disagree in some case :

> P1P6 : Corpse is a nice effect provider, but i probably would have taken Undead Leotau because at this point, you know you would probably play BR at least, in which leotau is pretty good. It is an expansive creature, but a nice recuring fatty; that is only a preference choice.

>P2P1 : i would definitely have taken Rafiq. This card is simply an absolute bomb in limited imho. Even you could not play it, it is better to have it "dead" in your SB instead to play against it. Resounding is a great card for sure, so understand your choice, but i wouldnt have done the same than you

> P2P3 : here i dont agree at all. Beetle is much better if you are expecting to play grixis, especially if you are running bone as removal. Druid of the anima & necropolis seem to be much better choice to me, to fix mana or to accelerate your deck. I see here no reason to have taken beetle.

> P3P2 : shambling is a bomb in limited (a pretty good unearth power), assuming you are running RB... and you did ! So i dont see better card in this pick, especialy when i saw your previous picks. Temper is a great removal for sure, but you could expect to have it in other picks (i saw 3 opportunity to get it in this draft). So i definitely have taken shambling here.

That's all folks !
Thank for this article, and waiting for the next one

Well,I'm a big leotau fan but by TheMiseDotCom at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 12:00
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Well,I'm a big leotau fan but the corpse seems a better fit.The Blister Bettle may have been a wrong pick since later I got a fixing issue with the deck.Regarding Rafiq,well picking it and not playing it its a possibility but its a Resounding Thunder. Thunder kills rafiq and also kills almost every other creature. So whats the point of hate picking a card Im not going to play while I can pick a bomb removal for my deck that deals with rafiq? The chances are that I may not even face it during the matches but if I do I prefer to have an asnwer instead of a dead card in my sideboard.Dark temper is nuts either in grixis or jund since it KILLS a creature.I would love to have picked more if the oppurtunity arised and I dont see the shambling being superior in power.

i undestand but by LOurs at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 12:31
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about Rafiq, your reasonning is pretty logical, as i said you, i understand your choice. Every time i could take him, i am attracted (maybe too much) by Rafiq...

About drak temper, my analyzis on your draft is different, and i still disagree : on P3P3 you choosed Thrinax instead of dark temper althought you choosed temper instead of shambling in previous pick... (so reson you evoked are true in these 2 choices).

so it is like you choosed Thrinax instead of shambling, and imho, shambling is much better in many case (even if Thrinax is a nice creature too) : better CMC (1 color less), better power and unearth are arguments enough strong to choose Shambling instead of Thrinax .

The shambling is one of the by TheMiseDotCom at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 16:24
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The shambling is one of the most agressive creatures of the format and also one of the best at it.My deck is not agressive.The thrinax fits the role of a 3 or 4 drop growing with the little chumpblocks of visionarys ,dredgscapes or beetle.If I where playing a more agreesive deck the shambling would have been my pick.

Mana fixing by Metalman (not verified) at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 12:17
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Well, if you want specifics on mana fixers...

Definates:
Pick Three, Pack One, Jungle Shrine (took Dragon Fodder)
Pick Three, Pack Two, Crumbling Necropolis (took Blister Beetle)
Both the Dragon Fodder and Blister Beetle seem like they are easily replaceable.

Mabyes:
Pick Five, Pack One, Bant Panorama (took Blightning)
Pick 5, Pack Two, Naya Panorama (took Elvish Visionary)
Pick 5, Pack 3, Rupture Spire (took Dark Temper)
I probably take the cards you took but it'd be close.

Also, would like some discussion on Pick 6 and 8, Pack Three. I think the picks are because your deck has enough playables already but itd be nice to hear some discussion on the thoughts behind taking SB anti-artifact cards. Stuff like how many playables, quality of the cards versus the cards you have already, weaknesses of the deck youve drafted which makes you want to draft SB cards, etc.

Finally, I totally disagree with LOurs taking Rafiq in pack two. You have Blightning x3, Corpse Conniseau, and Dredgescape Zombie. You have few mana fixers to play Rafiq and no Blue or White cards so theres no reason to break the deck for him. Now, if you had taken different cards like the Levithan pick two then mabye...But as is the Thunder is correct IMO.

-M

Your absolutely right. by TheMiseDotCom at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 12:25
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Your absolutely right. Blister beetle and Dragon fodder could have been fixing and it would have been a better choice.Regarding the other pics Blightning is better than an Off color panorama while the other 2 seemed like better cards. Esper and Domain have been a growing force in the drafts. Also grixis plays more artifacts now like the Parasitic Strix and Vectis Agents. The Artifact hate cards are a really nice sideboard,I always takethem above mediocre cards and that was the reasoning behind those pics. Its likely that you will face either Esper,Grixis or a Domain player relying on obelisks or artifact bombs.

Molten Frame doesn't help by scrappykid at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 14:16
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Molten Frame doesn't help against Obelisks, though.

I do like Naturalize/Filigree Fracture above mediocre cards, though.

Do you consider Dragonsoul Knight to be a mediocre card? I consider it to be more generally useful than my second Molten Frame.

Of course, it'd be tough to be certain that so many Frames would have wheeled in this draft. (though looking back at pack 3-5, it's not terribly surprising that one did come back 3-13)

Off domain the knight is not by TheMiseDotCom at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 16:23
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Off domain the knight is not stellar. A decent creature in any red deck.But I knew I wouldnet be running him. The 3 drop was a little crowded and Im with a more controlling than agressive build.He can stall the ground a little but besides it its not optimal. Without fixing as I was maybe I should have picked and run it instead of the thrinax but still it did go well.Im not advocating the pick of the Molten Frame since it was probably a mistake since It might have been needed to run the Knight.

great by Anonymous (not verified) at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 12:37
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Great draft. Thank you for share your picks.

i got a boner by omg (not verified) at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 12:45
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after i saw that third blightning... normally you make picks i consider questionable. but this was just a sick deck. i haven't even looked at anything past the third blightning, so let's see if you won lol

Draft by gogo (not verified) at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 14:58
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Pack 3 pick 3: Why the Thrinax it is not even close to a bomb i mean with the cards you have i don't understand how it is better with Dark.

Pack 3 pick 6: Yeah the Knight is decent or what about the Behemoth

Pack 3 pick 7: What is wrong with the Katheri? I mean he has to be removed just to get around him and he is not that bad while the charge kills your guys :( i mean heck on P3p12 why take a card you are not going to run

I was rather creature light by TheMiseDotCom at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 16:19
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I was rather creature light and the thrinax seemed a good choice. I prefer to run vs a kathari than vs the enchantment. The Kathari I can afford to wait a couple of turns for removal while a creature with the enchantment no. The 2/2 first striker is solid but I rather have the thrinax since I can save him from hellion or trick with iguanar. The behemoth seems bad.

Another fine article :) by Homem do pó (not verified) at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 15:26
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Keep it up man! - Go easy on the replay fastforward, though ;)

You're the Boss!! ;-) Nice by Anonymous (not verified) at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 18:02
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You're the Boss!! ;-)

Nice Article ;-)

Great by angeliti (not verified) at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 20:20
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Good article! You are becoming a pretty good drafter ;)

I liked the draft by TugaChampion at Tue, 03/17/2009 - 20:23
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There are a few I disagree but most of them are pretty close.

P1P2 Tropan Ascetic
P1P3 Jungle Shrine
P2P3 Crumbling Necropolis
P3P2 Here I'm not sure if Shambling Remains is better than Dark Temper. I just don't have enough experience with it.
P3P3 Here I would take Dark Temper as I value Shambling Remains higher than Scarland Thrinax unless I already have cards that make Thrinax really good (like the other Trinax from shards but your deck does have creatures that want to be sacrificed to Thrinax, just not anything like the other thrinax)
P3P6 I'm not sure but you only had 1 creature costing 5 so the 5/3 would be fine. At this point I don't think you could support Dragonsoul Knight. There was also Suicidal Charge which I still don't know how good it is.
P3P8 Again molten frama vs suicidal charge although this time you already have 1 charge and I don't think having 2 is good.

P3P1 I would never take Rafiq over Resouding Thunder here for the same reasons Andrea mentioned.

I Love Jund by Mellamopobrede (not verified) at Wed, 03/18/2009 - 01:09
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P1P2: The fact that topan ascetic was not on your radar scares me.

P1P3: Jungle Shrine over tokens. Also, you say you don't rate the grixis battlemage that highly, but your last two drafts say otherwise :)

P2P1: Thunder is a great card...but rafiq is like 5 tix, so it would have been my pick. The thunder is fine.

P2P3: Beetle over necropolis? You NEED the fixing and you still pass it for an easily replaceable card.

P2P5: You still do not have fixing. Naya panorama is fine even if it only gets two colors.

P2P6: Now you get a perfectly on color fixing land and pass it. You really really need fixing. Iguanar is very good, but it's not worth taking over the card that gives your deck consistency. If you had taken some earlier fixing, you can pass the panorama here, but with no fixing you really can't afford to.

P3P3: Probably would take the temper here over the guy you can barely cast.

P3P5: Again passing fixing...

Your deck had some nice cards, but no fixing. With many tough mana requirements, it seems like this powerful deck lacks a lot of consistency.

R1G1: Why did you cycle viscera dragger when you can cast it? What does unearthing it do for you that early in the game? I also noticed 2 wild leotaus stranded in your hand...obviously you needed fixing.

R2G1: Pretty greedy keep there. Drew pretty much exactly the lands you needed, and still couldnt cast the wild leotau.

R2G2: This should have been a mulligan. You have 5 lands, magma spray, and once again a wild leotau you cannot cast. When you beetled his guy, the turn after you didnt attack. Were you afraid of a quasali ambusher?

R3G2: You played scourge devil before unearthing the dragger. Small mistake, but it can matter in some games.

I gotta say that caldera hellion won you every game, but you kept some pretty greedy hands, and had multiple times where you couldnt cast some spells.

Congrats on the win though, and keep the articles coming.

R1G1- I cycle the dragger to by TheMiseDotCom at Wed, 03/18/2009 - 06:51
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R1G1- I cycle the dragger to maximize the possibility of drawing a mountain.

Yes my deck lacked fixing,as I POINTED out several times during this comments. Still its a gut shot since I would be picking the Sprite instead of removal. Probably I could advocate for that but my deck ended up with such power that I could afford to keep some stuff in my hand.Of course I got lucky several times but still thats part of the game and you have play side along side with it.

Fixing by Mellamopobrede (not verified) at Wed, 03/18/2009 - 15:30
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I was just saying when you should have taken fixing during the draft and how it affected your games. Sometimes people won't realize how certain picks in their draft affected their games. I thought you might not have noticed that you could never cast the wild leotaus beacuse you always had caldera hellion.

R1G1: An extra draw for a mountain is in no way better than getting a viscera dragger in play. That will help you much more than the possibility of another mountain.

The one game where you had magma spray and 5 lands plus an uncastable spell is a definite mulligan. You can never afford to keep bad hands.

Confused .... by Exodus at Wed, 03/18/2009 - 01:53
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Hello,

I would first like to point out that I completely agree with the format of your article although your video inserts of you playing your draft deck is probably better left out since every player in the game has a different play style. Your play is completely different then most as I could also point out about drafting as well although to many people it helps them out.

Was this a 8-4 or a 4-3-2-2 draft, since some of the picks were kind of brutal although you had 'commented' on the reason behind your picks which is efficient and proves my point that everyone has different views. Yet some of the packs contained odd picks to certain extent and if this is 4-3-2-2 then the relevance behind drafting and suggesting picks is irrelevant since 4-3-2-2 is lacking hard these days.

Thanks

Well I dont see how my play by TheMiseDotCom at Wed, 03/18/2009 - 06:54
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Well I dont see how my play style could be that unique since before showing up the article I always pass it trough a couple of well known portuguese players to see If there was some mistake that I should point out in the games. I may have some decisions that most people wouldn't make but reading your comment that almost feels like an insult which I believe was not your intention.
This was a 4-3-2-2 Draft,I always forgot to put it up.The pics are quite diferent,just as I write this I've splited an 8-4 in which the quality of the cards was not even comparable. I'll try to get a couple of 8-4s up since they help and captivate a diferent set of players.

I kinda agree on your first 2 by Pie~~ (not verified) at Wed, 03/18/2009 - 09:02
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I kinda agree on your first 2 packs although I wouldn't take the Blightning that early but you already said that was an error.

P3P3 suprised me. You had little fixing and almost 10 reasonable creatures in red black. I would have tried to stay in 2 colors at this point since by now you only had mosstodon, visionary and wild leotau in green. Very solid cards but not spalshworthy with limited fixing.

Your path might have been the better one though, since only 3 playable black red creatures showed up in the remaining conflux pack. But its rather hard to predict that.

I would have taken the Shambling Remains above Dark Temper as well since the two color plan came up in my mind during pack 2 and I counted creatures before. But it would have been a hard pick and I can't argue with anyone taking Dark Temper here.

no way jose by omg (not verified) at Wed, 03/18/2009 - 11:12
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blightning is extremely underrated, and in the 2nd pack if i had 3 removal, i would pick it over magma spray. having 3 is just crazy, most decks in this format are not very fast. to turn 3 and 4 blightning your opponent is usually good game. throw down a 2 drop beforehand and you are simply unbeatable.

I would agree with you, by TheMiseDotCom at Thu, 03/19/2009 - 11:57
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I would agree with you, Blighting is still underated either in 8-4 or 4322. Especially with domain becoming such a popular strategy. If I would run vs domains I would always sideboard them in.

Suggestion .... by Exodus at Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:34
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Hello,

It defineatly wasn't meant to be a insult just a suggestion to my definition of a 4-3-2-2 draft is a draft that technically doesn't show anything to players who wish to learn about drafting. Regardless of you showing your videos to Portuguese players everyone still has different ways of playing any scenario. It's just the fact that TugaChampion as well as you are repeating articles based on the same format why not one cover 8-4 and one do 4-3-2-2?

Thanks

Both me and TugaChampion are by TheMiseDotCom at Wed, 03/18/2009 - 21:28
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Both me and TugaChampion are 8-4s regular but I'm with him when he says that COnflux has still many blank spaces to be filled and as I progress through them I'll be previewing 8-4s again.