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Welcome to another edition of Yawgmoth's Soap Opera (YSO) the Classic Related Podcast bought to you the community. You can find us each week on Puremtgo.com with updates on Thursday. In addition to the podcast we produce brief show notes to accompany the cast (see below) and welcome listener feedback and views via the comments, email, twitter or in-client PM's.

The Regular Co-Hosts are all members of Magic Online Clan "Magic Eternal"
George Efelis  (whiffy penguin) 
Andy Phillips - (Hammer_Eternal) or (Eternal_Hammer)
Zach Whitten - (The_Hoff) or (abstrakt66) 

We are joined this week by Naoto / Tarmotog who has joined us to talk about Classic and specially his 4-0 with Snapcaster Mage

 

Daily Event of 10/08
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/2890741
GG Oath
4c Fish
Dredge
Fish
Gush Control
2x Work Shop
Merfolk
Fish
Fish
LED Bob Storm
RDW
Time Vault Deck? - Replays only showed this much.
Casual
2xJoin/Drop

 

Daily Event of 10/09
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/2890801
Rector Bargain
4x Oath
5x Shops
Hermit druid
2x Illusions
Esper Blade
Dredge
Mono Blue Control
GW hate

 

Bonus Material: Hammer captures all of the action from Round 2 of the DE on the 15th October - Come catch Snapcaster Mage and more in this 30 minute fast moving round up of the action.  There are some mistakes in the commentary (its challenging to keep up and spot everything on the fly watching just the replay - for example I miss the Chalice at 1 when suggesting Whiffy needs a Nature Claim to beat Precursor Golem)! 

 

Here is Wizard's post: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/other/10042011f which says in relevant part "The Mercadian MasquesNemesis, and Prophecy sets come to Magic Online on December 5, 2011, in the form of Masques Block Booster Packs!"

Tech of the Week: Teferi's Realm versus Workshops

Feedback - What do you like about YSO, what would you like added or changed? Please give us any suggestions for classic relevant topics to cover. Any special guests you would like to see - Let us know! You can contact us in the comments below or via Twitter @Magic_Eternal or @WhiffyPenguin or email us as "YSOPODCAST at Gmail dot com"  

Post Recording Announcement : Clan Magic Eternal has opened public forums! http://magic-eternal.com/forums !!!! Wiki as well at http://magic-eternal.com/clanwiki! Come on over check us out and create an account. More info in next weeks cast guys.
 

Just as a reminder, there are Classic Daily Event's every Saturday at 12:30 pm est time and Sunday at 6:30 pm est time.

Zach, George and Andy - Proud Members of Clan Magic Eternal See you in 7. 

 YSO is sponsored by MTGOTRADERS.com and hosted by PUREMTGO.com. 

Timestamp for this episode:

0:00 Introduction to the episode
0:16 Naoto introduced as this weeks guest
0:51 Discussion of Daily Event from the 8th October
3:10 Discussion of Daily Event from the 9th October
6:10 Metalworker / Staff of Domination
10:10 Masques Block Packs Release
19:30 Tangle Wire Impact /Restriction watch
26:38 Teferi's Realm vs Shops
28:18 Snapcaster Mage Control
43:34 Legacy Downturn

7 Comments

Tangle Wire discussion and by MMogg at Thu, 10/20/2011 - 02:42
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Tangle Wire discussion and restriction discussion was horrible, in my humble opinion.

Andrew: restrict Chalice.
Whiffy: But Shops can still win without Chalice.

>_< So you want to make the deck unable to win? It's not even that I'm a Shops fanboy, it's that the format right now at this moment seems pretty balanced with a bunch of different decks winning. Why is it no one mentioned restricting Tangle Wire itself? o.O If that is the card that you are supposing will disrupt the harmony of the format, why not deal with it directly?

What I think irks me most is that the same fears swirled around prior to Metalworker's release and Classic survived. The same hypothetical discussions about Shops domination and about restrictions took place and in the end, the format was healthy and adjusted and I think the same thing will probably happen here. If it doesn't, why not just deal with Wire itself, just as Trinisphere is restricted for making the game "unfun"?

That is fair, and to be fair by country hillbilly at Thu, 10/20/2011 - 02:57
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That is fair, and to be fair we should give someone such as yourself a chance to come on and discuss your positions regarding shops and the masqued menace.

We would love to have you on Michael, I think we were missing the shop player's perspective (although I can say most have the spike mentality :P )

Let me know man,

Zach

Tangled Thoughts by under_the_hammer at Thu, 10/20/2011 - 09:12
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Hi Michael,

Echo Zach above that we would love to have you on the show after your move.

From memory I think I was asked which two cards would you restrict from Shops if the deck was dominant post Tanglewire. I think the #1 target is Spehere of Resistance and so my argument although maybe not well articulated was that restricting Chalice of the Void would be my choice of the second card. Not my intention to make Shops unwinnable :-)

Hope you guys like the other content and the timestamping etc.
-Hammer the Tangled

Wire by Tarmotog at Sat, 10/22/2011 - 01:21
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Right now almost every deck is reaching its full power except for blue :(
Tangle wire feels very odd early(turn1) but i believe the optimal turn for it would soon be revealed.
Gush + 1 mana hate might be better when wire comes around.
I suspect we will just have to face the deck as it is with everything now. Petals/tops will be very useful to tap down with. :)

I'm not worried about Tangle by menace13 at Sat, 10/22/2011 - 16:15
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I'm not worried about Tangle Wire. The Classic Meta has seen Oath and Fish numbers surge to the point that Oath now has more placings than Shop and Fish is a close 2nd also Dredge is 4th. All the match ups are rough for Shop players.

O man I just noticed I forgot by country hillbilly at Thu, 10/20/2011 - 03:00
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O man I just noticed I forgot to put the cast back in mono channel post edit....

Sorry for the Me on left "them on right" audo gents...

Magic Eternal Forums by under_the_hammer at Fri, 10/21/2011 - 06:50
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MAGIC ETERNAL FORUMS AND WIKI (INCLUDING A YSO DEDICATED WIKI) - Come Join US!

Hi Guys in small print we added the following to the text associated with the podcast this week

Post Recording Announcement : Clan Magic Eternal has opened public forums! http://magic-eternal.com/forums !!!! Wiki as well at http://magic-eternal.com/clanwiki! Come on over check us out and create an account. More info in next weeks cast guys.

We really need the communities help to grow the wiki and to support the forums so please come and visit us and register. We will be linking to all the great classic content here on PureMTGO there is also a wiki containing details for all of the episodes of the podcast todate (we are in the process of hyperlinking all of the episodes to create a functional index).

Regards,
Hammer