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Apr 22 2016 12:00pm
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 Welcome back to Tribal Apocalypse!

   Table of Contents 

  1. Last Week on Tribal Apocalypse...
  2. The High Price of Winning
  3. Announcement Time!
  4. What's Next

Check the full archive for the "Diaries of the Apocalypse" series

by Kumagoro

 First of all, Gatherling is now up to date again with the latest sets (including Legendary Cube Prize Packs), and will remain so forever, because now the process is automatized! Woot! Big thanks to longtimegone for all the programming work.

 The Underdog exceptions are also fixed! Now Badger, Harpy, Homarid, Masticore, Mongoose, Octopus, Rabbit, Squid, and Whale all correctly allow for 8 Changelings. Fixing it unveiled a mistake made in last week's event, which was Pure, yet allowed a Masticore deck with Changelings that shouldn't have been there. Completely missed it since the player skipped the normal registration and headed directly to the placeholders, so Gatherling couldn't warn him that Masticore is not allowed in Pure (since it's, by necessity, never "pure").

 This brings us to the clean-up project I have in mind, which means searching for and fixing on Gatherling all the tribes with placeholders from the past, what, 6 months? Since when Gatherling started to fall behind on the new sets. I'll need some help looking for the lists that need the placeholders to be removed. Maybe it's just about searching for Darksteel Relic or Relentless Rats, but sometimes there were different placeholders because more than one missing card was involved.

Now this stupid thing will finally cease to perturb the statistics.

 Finally, a piece of news: apparently, the Community Super League, that will run every Thursday for nine weeks starting on April 26, will feature Tribal Wars as one of the formats! This is unlikely to bring the actual format back, but it might generate interest for Tribal Apocalypse. Many thanks to pfirpfel for telling me about that, as I don't really follow the streaming world, but he does, so he'll try to contact the participants and raise awareness about TribAp. If any of you can do the same, you'll be very welcome! (Also, pfirpfel, come back to a TribAp event one of these days!)


  • Event Number: 6.15, Week 276 BE
  • Date: April 16
  • Attendance: 18
  • Rounds: 4
  • Subformat: Pure
  • Winner: mihahitlor (Shaman)
  • 1 Loss: Yokai_ (Warrior), BrunoDogma (Human), AJ_Impy (Zombie), ChNidox (Wolf), ScionOfJustice (Wizard)
  • Underdog Prize: Golden_Lin ( Masticore)
  • Tribes: Elemental, Elf, Goblin, Human (x3), Myr, Rat, Shaman (x2), Sliver, Warrior, Wizard (x2), Wolf, Zombie (x3)
  • Event link (with all players, pairings, standings, decks, and results): here it is

 Thanks to the latest mihahitlor's first place, Shaman is now the most successful tribe after the usual suspects Human, Goblin, Elf (way after them, to be honest). It's one of my favorite tribes, has what's possibly the widest range of playable of all tribes and the greatest variety, spanning from fast aggro builds with Rage Forger, to something like this:


 And to celebrate the Shadows over Innistrad (and its evaluation, that should have been released as I write this), here's a couple Innistrad tribes that reached the top last week. First, a Zombie list by AJ_Impy (who just barely fails to achieve three wins in a row), entirely built around a huge, wonderful chain of interactions: so Putrid Imp and Necromancer's Stockpile pitch Scourge of Nel Toth, which then comes into play by saccing two among Gravecrawler, Bladewing's Thrall and Prized Amalgam, at which point both the Thrall and the Amalgam will instantly come back too, while Gravecrawler, which is able to trigger the Amalgam by itself, will be able to join the party as well. All with a mana expense that ranges between 0 and 2 CMC.


 Then a fast and furious Wolf deck by ChNidox. Those lupines can hit hard, with a little help from their aura friends.

by ChNidox - Top 8
4 Nyxborn Wolf
4 Sacred Wolf
4 Wandering Wolf
4 Witchstalker
4 Young Wolf
20 cards

Other Spells
4 Ethereal Armor
4 Journey to Nowhere
4 Rancor
4 Spirit Mantle
2 Armadillo Cloak
18 cards
10 Forest
4 Plains
4 Savannah
4 Windswept Heath
22 cards
Sacred Wolf



 Here's the prices of all the featured decks, courtesy of the amazing Deck Pricer from mtgGoldfish (MTGO Traders prices as of April 22, 2016):

 The Top 10 Cheapest Decks that Went Undefeated

  1. mihahitlor's Warriors, $1.95, 1st place on Event 233
  2. morpphling's Goblins, $2.35, 2nd place on Event 102
  3. JogandoPelado's Berserkers, $2.80, 1st place on Event 248
  4. Gq1rf7's Goblins, $3.32, 1st place on Event 154
  5. MisterMojoRising's Insects, $3.55, 2nd place on Event 201
  6. Gq1rf7's Goblins, $3.58, 1st place on Event 169
  7. Gq1rf7's Goblins, $3.70, 1st place on Event 145
  8. Gq1rf7's Goblins, $4.12, 2nd place on Event 141
  9. Gq1rf7's Assassins, $4.18, 1st place on Event 147
  10. mihahitlor's Goblins, $4.22, 1st place on Event 240

 NOTE: not adjusted to current prices; data collected since Event 85. 


 Just to remind you of a few things:


 Cockatrice Wants You! Be the first to win a match with the last orphan tribe and you'll win a 2-tix certificate from MTGO Traders. Remember: only tribes with at least 3 members are effectively considered tribes in Tribal Apocalypse (since tribes that field an equal or greater number of Changelings than actual members count as Shapeshifter decks). Tribes with exactly 3 members are allowed to play in Underdog events with 8 slots filled by Changelings, whereas nobody else (but, of course, Shapeshifter decks) can play with more than 4 Changelings in those events.

 The Underdog Prize: During any event of the regular rotation (but not during the one-time special events), all players who are running an Underdog Tribe are eligible for a 1-tix credit on Pennybot. The tie-breakers are first the number of Underdog categories (for instance, a tribe that's simultaneously Endangered and Unhallowed will take the prize over one that's only Endangered), then the points achieved in the final standings. During Underdog events, only the True Underdog tribes are rewarded (those are the tribes belonging to all three categories of Underdog at once).

 The Up-and-Coming Prize: When a tribe wins an event for the first time ever (losing Unhallowed status), its pilot will get a 3-tix certificate from MTGO Traders.

 The Hamtastic Award: The Biodiversity Prize dedicated to the memory of Erik Friborg has started the second quarter of 2016. The quarter will end June 25. By that date, the player or players who registered the greatest number of different tribes (except Human, Elf and Goblin) will get a 5-tix certificate from MTGO Traders. Congratulations to last quarter's winner, Generalissimo!

 The Top Players Lockout: Every time a Top Player (either a Google Era Top 8, an Ultimate Champion/Tribal Player of the Year, or a seasonal Top 8) will end undefeated, they will not be allowed to register the same tribe and deck again for 5 events (i.e. they'll have to register a different deck or decks 5 times before coming back to the undefeated one). With "deck" is meant a specific, recognizable archetype (e.g. Wall-Drazi), which in some case will be linked to a specific combo card (e.g. Helm of Obedience). A list of the current lockouts is maintained here.

 Wanna test your deck? Tell us when you're online, and look who else is there and when! All of this here!


 The upcoming Tribal Apocalypse events of the Blippian Era (every Saturday at 17:00 GMT):

  • 6.16 (Week 277 BE), on April 23: Regular
  • 6.17 (Week 278 BE), on April 30: Singleton
  • 6.18 (Week 279 BE), on May 7: Underdog
  • 6.19 (Week 280 BE), on May 14: Regular

Check out all the rules for the sub-formats!

Check out the full Tribal Calendar for 2016!



Sarkhan, the dragonspeaker by Sensei at Fri, 04/22/2016 - 12:30
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Sarkhan doesn't work. It must have been misspelled when entered into the KTK database or have some weird formatting (two spaces, omitting the).

Noted. Did you try other by Kumagoro42 at Fri, 04/22/2016 - 20:58
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Noted. Did you try other names with comma? I remember others not working properly from that block.

Sorin, Solemn Visitor by Sensei at Sat, 04/23/2016 - 01:56
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Sorin, Solemn Visitor originally didn't work too but Sorin got fixed while Sarkhan remained unrecognized

Lim-Dûl's Vault could use by Bazaar of Baghdad at Sat, 04/23/2016 - 09:45
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Lim-Dûl's Vault could use some help in Gatherling. The main point is that the Gatherling spelling should match the .txt file made by a deck save on MTGO to ensure proper importing.

I just checked the replay of by Bazaar of Baghdad at Sat, 04/23/2016 - 17:19
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I just checked the replay of my controversial last-round, game 2 win: I played Thought Lash with one life remaining and 50 cards left in the library. I exiled (or would have, if not bugged) 13 cards to prevent all damage from his first attack, exiled 1 for the upkeep cost, drew 1 card for the turn, exiled 2 cards (or would have, if not bugged) to prevent damage from my Ancient Tomb, then cast Lab Maniac, I passed, and exiled (or would have, if not bugged) 26 more on his next turn, winning on my next upkeep/draw phase. I played no library manipulation spells the entire game, so that was not an issue either (I had both combo pieces in my opening 5-card hand). 13+1+1+2+26 is less than 50, therefore my win in that game was entirely legitimate. ML_Berlin, feel free to confirm here please.

From WotC support rep: "Thank by Bazaar of Baghdad at Sun, 04/24/2016 - 15:37
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From WotC support rep: "Thank you for your report [on Thought Lash]. I was able to reproduce the issue as described and I have forwarded it to our development team for analysis and triage...Keep an eye on the bi-weekly Bug Blog, found on MTGO's home page, for updates."

There's a discrepancy on the by Bazaar of Baghdad at Sun, 04/24/2016 - 00:40
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There's a discrepancy on the banned lists for next week's Singleton event - says there is no banned list for the sub-format but if you try loading Umezawa's Jitte, for example, into Gatherling, it doesn't work. I suspect Gatherling is correct here, and other old Tribal-format banned cards will also still be banned for a new Singleton banned list. Either way, please let us know. Thanks!

Jitte is banned in Legacy. by Paul Leicht at Sun, 04/24/2016 - 04:36
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Jitte is banned in Legacy. All cards banned in Legacy are still banned in TWL even singleton. Oops nevermind, just realized that it isn't banned in Legacy so I dunno. I DO know it was banned in the TWL list and that might still be in effect. You'd think I'd know this btw since I suggested the format :D

Trying Black Vise. That was by Sensei at Sun, 04/24/2016 - 20:58
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Trying Black Vise. That was banned in Legacy but got unbanned

Can we get a clarification on by Sensei at Wed, 04/27/2016 - 15:43
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Can we get a clarification on Umezawa's Jitte, Engineered Plague, Peer Pressure, Tsabo's Decree, and Circle of Solace?
Totally understandable if they're banned in Tribal Singleton but in that case you should delete the giant bold font that says 'BAN LIST: NONE!'

That line refers to OUR ban by Tribal Apocalypse at Wed, 04/27/2016 - 23:48
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That line refers to OUR ban lists. We didn't ban anything in Singleton. The cards you (and BoB) are talking about weren't banned by TribAp, but by DCI for the Legacy Tribal Wars format. We used not to be able to do anything about it, the same way as we can't unban Strip Mine or Sol Ring. Now that we're using the Legacy filter, we can, and we did it for the other formats, but the Singleton format has remained as it was (mainly because we didn't play any Singleton event in the meantime). I may unban the old Legacy Tribal Wars DCI stuff if you like. But I'd leave it as it is for this week's event, rather than change it at the last minute, keeping it the way Tribal Singleton has always been played so far.

Strongly recommend not by AJ_Impy at Thu, 04/28/2016 - 03:19
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Strongly recommend not unbanning Jitte. Singleton tribal is still creature based, and there are plenty of tutors.

Also most of the rest of the by Paul Leicht at Thu, 04/28/2016 - 04:52
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Also most of the rest of the Banned list from TWL...

I thought about that, but it by Kumagoro42 at Thu, 04/28/2016 - 15:30
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I thought about that, but it would single-handedly counter the "no cards are banned in Singleton" rule. I liked that. And we're doing so few Singleton events per year, anyway.

Gatherling by Sensei at Thu, 04/28/2016 - 11:28
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So if I want to play those cards I "comment" them in since Gatherling rejects them. Correct?

Wrong. Those cards are by Kumagoro42 at Thu, 04/28/2016 - 15:28
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Wrong. Those cards are banned, period. After this week's event, I'll unban them. AFTER this week's event.

Am I confused? Sat 30 by Sensei at Thu, 04/28/2016 - 20:30
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Am I confused?

Sat 30 Apr Tribal Apocalypse 6.17 is Legacy Tribal Wars: Singleton

There is no ban list in Legacy Tribal Wars: Singleton

So shouldn't they be unbanned now?

You shouldn't be confused by Kumagoro42 at Fri, 04/29/2016 - 04:49
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You shouldn't be confused because Gatherling says those cards are banned, and we have a Golden Rule (section C-3) about Gatherling always being correct over any other statement.
Then you applied section C-4 and asked the host, and the host confirmed Gatherling is correct. End of story.

So the ban list for Singleton by Sensei at Fri, 04/29/2016 - 12:18
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So the ban list for Singleton isn't
For April 30, it is
Circle of Solace
Engineered Plague
Peer Pressure
The Abyss
Tsabo's Decree
Umezawa's Jitte

Got it. Thanks!

Cool Zombie Dragon by Sensei at Thu, 04/28/2016 - 11:30
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Cool Zombie Dragon