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Hammie’s The State of the Program for October 28th     

This series is an ongoing tribute to Erik “Hamtastic” Friborg.
 

News and Discussion Items:

FNM&Ms: This is a paper only deal, but it is pretty cool. In celebration of Halloween, stores offering Friday Night Magic may also be offering a special deal: M&Ms candies in special packages, and WURG colored. Details here
 
I know that this is not really MTGO related, but this is just cool.
 

I’m going to be judging at the SCG Open in KC this weekend. I wonder if I can find a participating FNM in KC…

 
Innistrad Release Events: The online Release Events continue through November 2, 2011. Details here. The usual events will be held – drafts, sealed queues and 64 player draft events. Prizes include two new avatars and Ludevic’s Test Subject cards for players making it to the Innistrad Championship.
 
Innistrad Prices Crashing: As I mentioned last week, supply is up and demand is temporarily down, so this is the best possible time to buy Innistrad, if you need it. About the only card that will fall further, over time, will be Snapcaster Mage, and that will only happen months from now, as months of continuous drafting finally force the price on this rare back down towards rational levels. Everything else will bump back up once the flood of cards from release events ebbs.
 
MTGO Product Line Update: A reminder. Details here. Innistrad is out, and Zendikar block is no longer in the store. From the Vault: Legends goes off sale November 7th.  
 
Redemption Coming to a Close in early November for Shards Block and M10: Another reminder. The redemption window closes November 7th for Magic 2010, and for Shards of Alara, Conflux and Alara Reborn. If you want to convert those digital sets to cardboard, do it before that date.
 
Mercadian Masques Countdown: Masques block arrives, in its entirety, on December 5th. Details on the Masques roll-out here. Countdown to Masques Block: 31 days.
 
Here’s your classic Masques block card for the day:
 
 
Lin Sivvi was another card so good it was banned in Masques block constructed. Rebels was a very strong mechanic in the format, especially in limited. Lin Sivvi is a bomb, but the cards you really want in quantities are the 1cc and 2cc Rebels, Ramosian Sergeant and Lieutenant, so you can chain up.
 

Editorial Section: Knutson’s Rant

If you haven’t seen this, here it is. It was also reprinted on Pure a week ago.
 
I have a few comments, but I want to start with some basics. Since the Knutson piece is a rant, I’ll make my point in the form of rants, plus some explanation. Rants are fun to write. Enjoy (or at least bear with me. 
 
You know what really pisses me off about {name of fast food company}? It’s that they spend money offering garbage when they could save money by streamlining their menu and cutting prices. I mean their {food # 1} is amazing, but {food #2} tastes like garbage and no one ever buys it. They should just offer one thing, and cut their prices.  
 
People writing rants like simply don’t know enough people. I’m pretty certain that the comment “no one ever buys it”, or even “no one I know ever buys it”  are untrue. Someone buys the whatever. If you substitute “Chicken O’Chunkies” for {food # 1} and “Double Whammer with Bacon” for {food # 2}, you will get a bunch of people agreeing with the ranter, probably at length. However, if you reverse the food choices, you will get an entirely different set of people agreeing with the ranter. This is because of one simple fact: a company makes a range of products for a range of customers. One size does not fit all.
 
Look at a company like Ford Motors, for example. They make giant trucks, like the F350. They make high end sports cars. They make family 4-door sedans, mini vans, hatchbacks and eco-friendly little cars.   Ford has some two dozen product lines, and each line includes a long list of options and alternatives.  Of these hundreds of different packages, at least ninety percent will be completely uninteresting to any given customer that walks through the door.
 
The point, however, is that it is a different 90% for each customer. The goal of the company is to have something for every customer, not to have customers like every single product. Something to think about when you find something you are not interested in buying. Also something to think about when you hear a constructed specialist who plays no limited suggesting the elimination of prereleases.
 
Dude, anyone with a brain knows that {specialty beer X} is infi better than {best selling beer.} It’s not even close. No one with half a brain would drink that other stuff.
 
This person is confusing his personal preference and his own tastes with universal preferences. The fact that one person likes, or dislikes, something is only relevant to that person. The rest of the world, or at least the vast majority of it, may have different preferences and tastes. 
 
The fact that you have a certain set of tastes, or have done something, only proves that it works for you. It proves nothing about the rest of the world. One person’s story is an anecdote - a story. The best stories are the atypical stories, the ones that catch us by surprise. In the newspaper world, the slogan is that no one wants to read a story about a dog biting a man – they want to read about a man biting a dog.  
 
The plural of anecdote is not data. It is merely more stories. A couple stories, by themselves, are never justification in and of themselves. If you look, you can find a half dozen stories of people falling out of tall buildings and living. That is not a reason to abolish stairs and elevators.
 
 You have to look at the facts – the numbers. Maybe your specialty beer does have a flavor you really like, but if the mass market swill outsells the specialty brew by several orders of magnitude, then maybe that flavor is not a universal preference. The fact that people drink a thousand cans of the mass market beer than your favorite does not make the masses wrong. They have their preferences, and you have yours. 
 
It’s the same thing with the cost of online prereleases and 4-3-2-2. Writers tend to fall back on ranting about these topics whenever they get writers block. Years ago, I wrote rants about blue being overpowered in much the same way. The rants don’t change the fact that the online prereleases and 4-3-2-2 are some of the most popular events on MTGO. Lots and lots of people play them – for a lot of different reasons.
 
Yes prereleases cost more money than later events. Wizards charges more because people are impatient, and want the cards quickly. Wizards can charge those prices because people are willing to pay them. It’s the same in any business. Movies, for example, so the same thing. If you want to go to the world premier, you pay more. Then the film arrives at the multiplexes, and you pay high prices. A few weeks later, you can see it at the discount theatres. A month or two later it is on pay-per-view on cable, then the premium movie channels, then the free channels.   Eventually, the movie is pretty much free – but if you want to see it earlier, you have to pay more. 
 
Another point on 4-3-2-2s: year back, people complained because the really good players were in drafts, and the less skilled players kept getting beat. This led to draft queues thinning out. Wizards tried a lot of options to segregate the players – things like the 1800+ room. None of those worked. 4-3-2-2 did work to segregate the drafters. Another plus – back when payouts were higher, packs were more widely available, and the resale price was a lot lower. Reducing the payout for one draft queue by one pack seems like small potatoes, but the fact is that packs have been holding their value better than they did with 5-3-2-2s. 
 
We writers can rant all we want about the 4-3-2-2 queues, or the price of the prereleases, but the simple fact is that for every single writer complaining, a couple hundred customers are buying these products. 
 
I could go on for pages, but I suspect that few topics are less exciting than rants about rants, so I’ll stop. I will close with one final comment: I managed to write this entire article without using a single profanity. I also managed to do so without using the phrase “pink-handled umbrella.” Some things are simply unnecessary. 
 

Tournaments:

Thursday Night Magic for the upcoming week (November 3rd): Innistrad 6 pack sealed.   Nice chance to practice building sealed decks PTQ style, without the PTQ price.   The TNMO card for November is still a secret, although one rumor says it will be an alternative art Mox Ruby. So far, that particular rumor source has been quite consistent. Consistently wrong, that is.
 
Wizards is running a Lorwyn / Morningtide block sealed event this weekend. Open your Vendilion Cliques! The average value of the cards in six-pack Lorwyn block sealed is $9 or so. 
 
Let’s look at the Constructed Tournaments breakdown for the week of October 12th  through October 18th.  93 constructed events fired, which is quite low, but then we had Release events sucking players out of a lot of those events. Let’s look at how they broke down. 
 
Format
Fired
Format
Fired
Standard
45
Standard Singleton
0
Pauper
32
Kaleidoscope
0
Momir Basic
15
100–card Singleton
0
Modern
0
Classic
1
Legacy
0
Extended
0
Innistrad Block Const.
n/a
-
-
 
It will be interesting to see if Legacy and Modern can recover once we get past the Innistrad prerelease and things calm down.   FYI: I got the number fired from the list of results, here.  
 

Cutting Edge Tech:

Standard:  We had another SCG Open last weekend, and the deck to beat remains Wolf Run Green, which finished first and second. The rest of the top eight was Township Tokens, Solar Flare, Mono-Black Infect, U/W Blade, U/B Control and another Infect. Here are two examples.
 
 

 

Mono-Black Infect
Joseph Jancuk – Fifth place at SCG Open Baltimore
Creatures
4 Phyrexian Crusader
4 Plague Stinger
2 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
2 Whispering Specter
12 cards

Other Spells
4 Lashwrithe
2 Tezzeret's Gambit
1 Dismember
2 Distress
2 Contagion Clasp
2 Victim of Night
1 Tribute to Hunger
3 Liliana of the Veil
2 Doom Blade
3 Virulent Wound
1 Tumble Magnet
1 Nihil Spellbomb
18 cards
Lands
20 Swamp
4 Inkmoth Nexus
24 cards

Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
 
Modern: No Modern events have fired, but Modern will be a Worlds format. We may see some more activity in the near future. I hope.
 
Legacy: Legacy had two huge paper events last week – an 1,800 player GP and a big SCG Legacy Open in Baltimore. The format is back: the Top 8s, and the top 32s in both events contained a lot of different archetypes.
 
Finish
GP Amsterdam
SCG Legacy
First
Bant Stoneblade
RUG Tempo
Second
RUG Tempo
RUG
Third
Ad Nauseum
U/W Stoneblade
Fourth
Hive MInd
U/W Stoneblade
Fifth
Naya Stoneblade
Reanimator
Sixth
Bant
RUG Tempo
Seventh
Imperial Painter
Merfolk
Eighth
Bant Counterbalance
Rug Tempo
 
Classic fired just one DE this week. It was won by a Slash Panther Workshops deck.
 

Card Prices:  

Notes: All my prices come from MTGOTraders.com for cards that are available in multiple sets, I am quoting the most recent set’s price, which is almost always the lowest. Thus, the price I’m quoting for Primeval Titan is from M12. If a card is out of stock, take that price with a grain of salt. MTGOTraders may not adjusted prices for a card until they have some to sell.
 
Now, with Innistrad, although these prices are unsteady, especially since the inventory keeps shifting. The new Standard metagame is forming up, and that is affecting prices all over the place. Primeval Titan and Inkmoth Nexus are soaring, because of the Wolf Run deck, and Consecrated Sphinx is up because of the UB control deck. On the flip side, with the Innistrad release events in full swing, the prices of Innistrad singles are falling, hard. Now is the time to buy.  
 
Standard & Block Cards
Price
In Stock?
Last Week
Change
$ 25.58
N
$ 31.00
- $ 5.42
$ 12.58
N
$ 31.26
- $ 18.68
$ 8.29
N
$ 13.81
- $ 5.52
$ 15.69
N
$ 20.95
- $ 5.26
(GavonyTownship)
$ 1.44
Y
$ 5.25
- $ 3.81
$ 1.48
Y
$ 6.90
- $ 5.42
$ 3.61
Y
$ 6.79
- $ 3.18
$ 2.84
N
$ 8.48
- $ 5.68
$ 0.81
N
$ 5.38
- $ 4.57
$ 3.97
Y
$ 5.64
- $ 1.67
$ 2.34
Y
$ 6.22
- $ 3.88
(Woodland Cemetery)
$ 1.66
Y
$ 4.77
- $ 3.11
$ 11.57
Y
$ 11.68
- $ 0.11
$ 17.96
Y
$ 18.34
- $ 0.38
(Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas)
$ 14.90
Y
$ 15.97
- $ 1.07
$ 23.44
N
$ 32.15
- $ 7.71
$ 17.30
Y
$ 16.37
+ $ 0.93
 $ 12.22
Y
 $ 12.67
- $ 0.47
$ 4.57
Y
$ 8.11
- $ 3.54
$ 12.60
Y
$ 15.12
- $ 2.52
(Sword of Feast and Famine)
$ 28.05
Y
$ 24.47
+ $ 3.58
$ 19.56
Y
$ 20.06
- $ 0.50
$ 11.80
Y
$ 9.24
+ $ 2.56
$ 21.19
N
$ 14.36
+ $ 6.83
$ 15.19
Y
$ 15.19
---
(Sword of War and Peace)
$ 20.49
Y
$ 21.43
- $ 0.94
$ 10.17
Y
$ 8.74
+ $ 1.43
$ 11.77
N
$ 13.67
- $ 1.90
 
 
 
 
 
 
Modern prices are still heading down. The correct B&R list is finally in place, so we may see some resurgence once the Innistrad release events die down.
 
Modern Cards
Price
In Stock?
Last Week
Change
$ 15.94
N
$ 15.75
+ $ 0.19
$ 7.55
Y
$ 7.65
- $ 0.10
$ 10.43
Y
$ 12.68
- $ 2.25
$ 8.26
Y
$ 9.10
- $
$ 7.00
Y
$ 7.00
---
$ 5.00
Y
$ 5.75
- $ 0.75
$ 7.19
Y
$ 8.50
- $ 1.31
$ 6.19
Y
$ 7.06
- $ 0.87
$ 60.12
Y
$ 72.00
- $ 11.88
$ 11.89
Y
$ 14.00
- $ 2.11
$ 4.34
Y
$ 4.75
- $ 0.39
$ 11.77
Y
$ 11.50
+ $ 0.27
$ 16.33
Y
$ 16.33
---
$ 11.06
Y
$ 11.06
---
$ 15.50
Y
$ 15.50
---
 
Legacy prices have stabilized.  Force of Will and Big Jace is down a bit this week, but the format, overall, is waiting to see what Innistrad – and the GP - brings. 
 
Legacy Cards
Price
In Stock?
Last Week
Change
$ 103.00
Y
$ 112.00
- $ 9.00
$ 43.00
Y
$ 46.00
- $ 3.00
$ 74.10
Y
$ 74.10
---
$ 28.00
Y
$ 28.00
---
$ 34.78
N
$ 34.78
- $ 2.22
$ 65.00
Y
$ 65.00
---
$11.75
Y
$11.75
---
$ 19.00
Y
$ 18.00
+ $ 1.00
$ 17.00
Y
$ 17.50
- $ 0.50
$ 14.50
Y
$ 14.50
---
$ 41.80
Y
$ 41.80
---
$ 3.50
Y
$ 4.50
- $ 1.00
$ 7.75
Y
$ 8.75
- $ 1.00
$ 4.75
Y
$ 4.75
---
$ 11.95
Y
$ 11.95
---
 
Note: cards which are staples in both Legacy and Classic may appear in either list. If you don’t see a card in one list, check the other.
 
Classic prices are not moving. The format is on hold, like the rest of the Magic world, while we wait for Masques block. 
 
Classic Cards
Price
In Stock?
Last Week
Change
$ 94.00
N
$ 94.00
---
$ 21.00
Y
$ 21.00
+ $ 1.00
$ 14.00
Y
$ 14.00
---
$ 12.00
Y
$ 12.00
---
$ 14.50
Y
$ 14.50
---
$ 9.50
Y
$ 9.50
---
$ 28.00
Y
$ 28.00
---
$ 42.00
Y
$ 42.00
---
$ 39.00
Y
$ 42.00
- $ 3.00
$ 10.50
Y
$ 10.50
---
$ 23.00
Y
$ 22.00
+ $ 1.00
 
The Top Ten:
Here’s this week’s list of the top ten most expensive non-foil, non-promo cards on MTGO. Pretty much the same ten cards, week after week.   
 
Most Expensive Cards
Price
Set
Last Week
$ 103.00
MED 1
# 1
$ 94.00
Mirage
# 2
$ 74.10
Apocalypse
# 3
$ 65.00
Future Sight
# 4
$ 65.00
Visions
# 5
$ 44.00
Apocalypse
# 9
$ 43.00
Tempest
# 6
$ 42.00
Weatherlight
# 7
$ 39.00
Odyssey
# 8
$ 34.78
Starter II
# 10
 

Deck Prices:

Deck prices will return in a week or two, once Innistrad prices stabilize.
 

Weekly Highlights:

I was able to play in a couple Innistrad limited events, and enjoyed almost all of it. On the flip side, I am growing to hate Manor Gargoyle. Why did they print that thing. I have faced it several times, both in sealed and draft – and each time, nothing in my pool or that I could have drafted would have gotten rid of the card. Grrr.
 
This weekend< I won't be doing much MTGO - I'll be judging at the SCG Open in Kansas City. 
 
PRJ
 
“one million words” on MTGO.

 

25 Comments

can we put elspeth tirel by seydaneen at Fri, 10/28/2011 - 11:31
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can we put elspeth tirel under standard cards? she is becoming popular lately

Question by vis at Fri, 10/28/2011 - 11:58
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"The average value of the cards in six-pack Lorwyn block sealed is $9 or so."

How do you determine this?

I loved your comment on the by oraymw at Fri, 10/28/2011 - 12:01
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I loved your comment on the Knutson piece. People love to complain, but the fact of the matter is that complaining isn't how you get things done; you can only vote with your wallet. Prereleases and 4322s are not going away because people will keep on paying for them. You can boycott them if you really want to take a principled stand, but you aren't really going to make a difference, because people will keep on paying for these events.

I remember working as a waiter and Winger's years ago. I liked most of the things on the menu, but there were two items that I could not stand. However, there were people that swore by those items, and ordered them every time they came into the restaurant.

I think easiest (and very by seydaneen at Fri, 10/28/2011 - 12:04
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I think easiest (and very rough) way would be (1xAvg Rate + 3xAvg Unc +11xAvg Common)*6

Sure, but by vis at Fri, 10/28/2011 - 12:08
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I'm more wondering where you get those prices. The MTGOTraders website doesn't really lend itself to getting prices for multiple cards or in a spreadsheet-like format.

I believe Pete gets a by Paul Leicht at Fri, 10/28/2011 - 17:24
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I believe Pete gets a spreadsheet weekly from Heath to help with this.

Why has Sword of Feast and by bogtrog at Fri, 10/28/2011 - 12:57
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Why has Sword of Feast and Famine skyrocketed like it has? I cashed mine out at 25 and it is still up another 5 since then. Is it really seeing that much more play now then in previous times?

You are aware the prices for by Alternate at Fri, 10/28/2011 - 13:04
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You are aware the prices for the ISD singles have hit bottom 2 days ago?

I found the bottom after Geist of Tramp Stamp went from 6-8, and every other card has also started to go up even if it's incrementally. I mean Lilliana is up, Garruk is up, Super Skaab is up a full $1, and Snappy has hit a bottom, but that was bound to happen. I mean thank god WotC made it a rare and not Mythic.

If it was a Mythic it would be force of will x2, haha.

But there are a ton of Snappy's out there, so I see 10-12 as a fair price.

You have even seen the duals that will be used in ISD block and STD go up, like the R/W which has seen a nice jump off it's bottom price of .70-ish to 0.80-ish. I only wish I bought Geist of Tramp Stamp at 6 but it's jump to 8 and soon to be 10 will be a nice jump.

*I just would hope that you, in your state of the program would understand that prices have hit the bottom and are on their way down... That is unless MTGOtraders manipulates their prices?

And for your "New Deck Tech" those are already on the way out. The new winning deck is the Human STD white weenie. Infect won a few, but it's being dealt with, and Kessig Wolf Run is on it's way out. It's just too slow to beat the decks that are coming out now that ISD is somewhat affordable. 

I think it would be fun to talk about the STD version of Burning Vengeance. In ISD it's hard to beat if you are playing a very well constructed deck, and in STD you can make a really good version that I have read on some websites has done well in tournaments.
Or maybe the Gavonry Township deck? What about the U/B control Mill deck? Those are "New Deck Tech".

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And for the Masques block, I am excited. There is a card in the set called Squirrel Master, or something like that. There is a guy that makes squirrels. I am making a squirrel deck and will pay top dollar for that card if you want to sell it.

1. He gets a special by blandestk at Fri, 10/28/2011 - 13:20
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1. He gets a special spreadsheet of prices from the site. It's not something you or I could reasonably do without it.

2. This article is written two days in advance, so the price discussions, especially during release windows, are always going to be a bit off. So essentially his statement about the bottoming happened after he wrote it and before your comment.

3. Although I agree with many points about the rant, especially personal preference versus universality, I think some of the logic here is a bit flawed. Your comparison to a company such as Ford won't work because Ford does not have a monopoly on cars of any type. Wizards makes Magic and no one else can. Further, the point about phasing out prereleases may not be on target, but the talk about the prize support is absolutely valid, even if you do argue the extra pack from the draft format devalued the packs slightly. I doubt it's the only factor going on there. Regardless, if you want to draft, you have two choices (sometimes just one). People can either accept the 4 pack top or not play. There is no control to show that people would spend money on something else if they could. It's like a poll I just saw that showed Americans would rather their child be a Wall Street broker than an Occupy Wall Street Protester. Well, yeah, when you give them those two choices, of course they select that. It's like asking if you would rather your child be a hobo or a congressman. The point is, people continue to play those formats because there is no alternative. Sure, maybe complaining won't work, but what else can you do? Stop playing? Most people don't realize how to make their voices heard, so they'll just keep playing.

Also, the anti-rant about complaining is actually just as bad as the "writer's block" argument, just in reverse. I see the same knee-jerk reaction on both sides. One guy complains. The other guy tells him to stop complaining. Which is less original? I say all this as someone who straddles the fence. I see valid points on both sides. But it's not just one side that relies on a cliched trope.

4. The Wolf deck is still at the top. Other articles on other sites have highlighted this. Not sure why the above comment thinks it's way past its prime already.

Mox Ruby by enderfall at Fri, 10/28/2011 - 15:30
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Mox Ruby for TNMO in Nov, huh. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that guy is a pure trollolol!

"Kessig wolf run on it's way by seydaneen at Fri, 10/28/2011 - 15:45
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"Kessig wolf run on it's way out", who are you dude? LSV? Everybody is a friggin pro these days

There is no way this article by Paul Leicht at Fri, 10/28/2011 - 16:06
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There is no way this article is even close to worth a 1 rating. The information alone is worth the 5 fireballs.

Doctor Anime - anyone heard by deluxeicoff at Fri, 10/28/2011 - 17:18
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Doctor Anime - anyone heard where he went? Just noticed his last login was August of 2010! Miss the good articles...

I don't think anybody of a by Kumagoro42 at Fri, 10/28/2011 - 17:27
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I don't think anybody of a sound mind (or without severe self-esteem issues) would find State of the Program worth anything less than 5 fireballs. :)

Just had to leave a 5 by oraymw at Fri, 10/28/2011 - 17:33
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Just had to leave a 5 Fireball rating on here, to kind of cancel out alternate's rating. He's just upset because no one likes his articles.

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Keep 'em coming, sir.

Alternate just keeps by ShardFenix at Sat, 10/29/2011 - 01:35
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Alternate just keeps trolling,trolling, trolling what!?!

Dude just needs to be ignored, but other than that, another heroic effort. And yeah Wolf-run is still going strong in paper and isnt something to be messe with regardless of alternate's opinion and it versus WW is a toss up.

Mercadian Masques by GrandAdmiral at Sat, 10/29/2011 - 06:49
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I'll give you five fireballs just because you've actually sparked my interest in Mercadian Masques. From what I'd heard about the block previously (I didn't play during that time), I didn't think that was possible. :)

man i cant believe jace was by whiffy at Sat, 10/29/2011 - 10:16
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man i cant believe jace was in starter II i bought a lot of that set in paper never opened 1. sad face.

Nah, that's wrong, Jace by Lord Erman at Sat, 10/29/2011 - 10:35
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Nah, that's wrong, Jace wasen't in Starter II, he was in Unglued... it was one of those "fun" cards which will never be printed in a normal set. Surely WotC does know better than anyone that a planeswalker who can Brainstorm for free every freakin' turn belongs to those Un- sets.

:p

LE

If his ability had been some by walkerdog at Sat, 10/29/2011 - 13:11
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If his ability had been some sort of "taps target creature. it doesn't untap next turn" so it wasn't SO board dominant along with free brainstorms...

Thanks by silverwyvern4 at Sat, 10/29/2011 - 12:24
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Thanks

That was deluxe! Currently by deluxeicoff at Sat, 10/29/2011 - 18:21
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That was deluxe! Currently I"m trying to make a 'allflying' pauper deck with Dust Corona' s :) - unblockable city!

Very true with your ranting by Phroggie at Sun, 10/30/2011 - 20:06
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Very true with your ranting comments there. Magic appears to have a very high number of people with opinions that are unable to deal with reality outside of their view point :) (I say that with the full data of my own experience). Fact is, if a business had a product on the market that wasn't profiting their overall strategy that product would be removed.

Sure the 4322 total payout is 1 pack less, but I think it's the most tempting queue to play because it says to the average player "hey, you only have to win 1 round for a decent payout". Who cares (rhetorical question ok!) if the total is 1 less than the other queues, you're never going to win 12 packs, so whats the dif? For me, Swiss is brilliant because I draft for my collection, casual decks and trade value just as much to win because I'm not good enough, or lucky enough to win everytime and I'd say I loose that first match nearly half the time, although ISD-draft has been treating me very well now averaging over 2 wins per - but I would definitely not have "won" back the value I've put in if it was 4322 or 84.

End of the day, stop being an A-hole and be an adult - let other adults make their own choices. What works for you does not work for everyone else, your opinion and the opinion of your social group does not make up anything close to market/business research. People are also emotional beings and go with what feels right for them.

Game by Jamie Abels at Wed, 11/23/2011 - 20:34
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I like the idea and the implementation, of course there will be someone who won't like yours approach but with this IT consumerization you can't please everyone. I respect your decision and I hope other users will too. I try to reach my monthly and yearly goals and after that I will be more interested in your offer.