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Mar 05 2015 12:00pm
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Episode 312

Hosts: Josh, and AJ

Episode Length: 1:12:18



Dragons of Tarkir Preview season! More dragons than Scourge! More dragons than even Dragon’s Maze!
Dragons of Tarkir promo cards!  

Legacy Cube returning Wednesday, March 18th, with a few tweaks.
Magic Online R&D Challenge

Elder Dragon name controversy! The Dragonlords have the honorific last seen on Nicol Bolas.



Stormbreath Dragon 16.66

Thundermaw Hellkite 11.13

Utvara Hellkite 4.18

Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon 2.09

Dragon Broodmother 1.85

Hellkite Tyrant 1.83

Scourge of Valkas 1.70

Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius 1.65

Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund 1.47

Dromar, the Banisher 1.36


Question of the Week:

Do you mind the use of ‘Elder Dragon’ for the five lineage P/Matriarchs?


Whatcha been playin’:

AJ: A bit of practice for the weekend with mostly Mythic Orcs.
Joshua:  UTron and Enduring Ideal in Modern.  Narset Control and RW Heroic in Standard.  

Questions? Comments? Constructive Criticisms?


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I haven't had a chance to by Paul Leicht at Thu, 03/05/2015 - 17:16
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I haven't had a chance to listen yet but I'll give my 2 cents on type recycling: I am for it. Elder Dragon Legends may have been collectable in '94 but they have long since been reprinted (Chronicles, Italian Legends, etc) and otherwise superseded until they are mainly a vanity thing for those few who have surviving Legends copies.

I just wish the dragons themselves inspired the same sense of awe that the initial Elders did. I am not saying they suck because they don't but they don't make my Vorthos side (a small albeit vocal side of me) cheer either.

Elder Dragons by Dwarven_Pony at Thu, 03/05/2015 - 17:32
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The Tarkir Dragons are not epic enough to deserve the title of Elder Dragons.

Although, as to the original Elder Dragons from Legends, how could the original artist(s) of those Dragons been allowed to draw them as cuddly cartoon characters? It completely ruined the effect.

How are the original elder by JXClaytor at Fri, 03/06/2015 - 08:15
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How are the original elder dragons epic enough?

they have epic casting costs? by Joe Fiorini at Mon, 03/09/2015 - 20:10
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they have epic casting costs? Doesn't one have an epic upkeep cost to pay? E.very P.rinting I.ncreased C.ollectability (not really accurate anagram).

They have insanely cool art by Paul Leicht at Mon, 03/09/2015 - 23:44
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They have insanely cool art imho. The costs (8) are all the same converted. The upkeeps are all the same converted (3). They are bigger nastier dragons than Shivan which was the benchmark for nasty creatures in the old days. And they all have some kind of ability, with Bolas being the meanest as a mind twist for your hand. Though Vaevictus with his firebreathing in 3 colors comes close.

They indeed have great art. by JXClaytor at Tue, 03/10/2015 - 07:51
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They indeed have great art. Chromium is my favorite.

To me though, getting hung up on something that was used last millennium to describe powerful dragons is a bit of nit picking.

I like the idea that planes can have ancient elder creatures, Tarkir has dragons, Zendikar has eldrazi, and so on.

should it be used every set? Nah.