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By: dragonegg5, Scott Schauf
Sep 22 2007 10:04am
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I've decided to take a break from my whole 'watch me build an account up from scratch gimmick'.  Mainly, I'm getting pretty tired of limited and can't really dump some money on a constructed deck right now. However, all is not lost, for I have another account, loaded to the brim with Standard cards!  This secondary account will allow me to play almost anything I want to in Standard! 

One person can only take so many Solar Flare and Angelfire matches, so to break the monotony a bit, I play around with some rough ideas I had for decks. Today I'll be talking about one of those decks, as well as a couple other decks I've seen around MTGO that are a bit off the wall. First up, we have the Red Green Tokens deck that won the latest Standard 4x Premiere Event.  I was unable to get the sideboard to this deck, but the main deck is a really good place to start right?

Red Green Tokens

4 Birds of Paradise
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Mogg War Marshal
4 Scryb Ranger
4 Yavimaya Dryad
4 Scatter the Seeds
4 Gaea's Anthem
4 Seige-Gang Commander
1 Greater Gargadon
3 Overrun
4 Fists of Ironwood
4 Stomping Ground
4 Karplusan Forest
2 Mountain
10 Forest

Scatter the Seeds


The basic gameplan, if you haven't figured it out already, is to make a bunch of men, then either ride your Gaea's Anthem or Overrun to victory. Seen as most of its cards make multiple men, the deck comes with some built-in resilience to wrath effects. Against aggro, you really want to stick an Anthem. Once you do that, most of your opponent's attacks will become very unprofitable for them, and you should be able to take control shortly.

Though this deck won the 4x, I'm thinking its a fluke. It has some pretty underwhelming draws, and its cards, for the most part, just aren't as powerful as any other deck. Its pretty fun, though, and a good way to kill some time in the Tournament Practice room.

Next up we have a deck that trounced me in an eight man.
Grave Pact

Black Red Grave Pact

4 Nantuko Husk
4 Plagued Rusalka
4 Squee, Goblin Nabob
4 Grave Pact
4 Nether Traitor
4 Guerilla Tactics
4 Greater Gargadon
4 Mogg War Marshal
4 Keldon Marauders
2 Threaten
4 Blood Crypt
4 Graven Cairns
3 Rakdos Carnarium
4 Sulfurous Springs
2 Mountain
5 Swamp


I was playing the Dutch OmniChord update. Turns out, that deck cannot handle a Grave Pact. Pretty much, my oponent crushed me with little trouble. Once you stick a Pact, you have literally infinite ways of making and sacrificing men. Squee is a nice touch, with the ability to Cruel Edict every turn provided you have a sacrifice outlet. Doesn't hurt against ack, either, which is what the Guerilla Tactics are doing in the main as well. I think this
one is one to keep your eye on.

Finally, we have a self-made creation, based on an idea from the Top8Magic.com podcasts. They were talking about how no one has tried to play with Jhoira of the Ghitu yet, and I thought it sounded like a cool idea, so I set to work.

Blue Red Jhoira

4 Aeon Chronicler
4 Bogardan Hellkite
2 Detritivore
4 Jhoira of the Ghitu
4 Rift Elemental
4 Compulsive Research
2 Dragonstorm
4 Ancestral Vision
4 Clockspinning
4 Remand
4 Steam Vents
4 Scrying Sheets
3 Mouth of Ronom
7 Snow-Covered Island
6 Snow-Covered Mountain

Sideboard
1 Detritivore
4 Martyr of Ashes
4 Tormod's Crypt
2 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
4 Repeal

Clockspinning
So, we pretty much have a suspend deck. But man, this thing is powerful. I tend to wait on casting Jhoira until turn five, when I can immediatley suspend something as well. You can take this deck in so many directions. You could try cutting the Dragonstorm and dragons for a Skred and Stuffy Doll package, for example. You can play Errant Ephemeron, or Teferi and Delay package main. The aggro matchup is a bit rough, but Martyr can come in and clean that up for you. This deck just does a lot of powerful things, though it is a bit on the slow side.
There you have it, three rogue decks for a little time-killing in between eight man queues or premiere event rounds. I've been playing a lot of standard lately; I've got a big tournament for forty old dual lands this weekend, so I'm trying out a bunch of decks. I'll be writing a UR Storm primer next, but if there are any decks you'd like me to cover, please, let me know. I'll be happy to write about whichever Standard (or Extended, I love that format) deck you'd like me to. Until next time!

-Scott Schauf
Four to the Facehole on MODO
Dragonegg5 on AIM

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on main site by Anonymous (Unregistered) 192.118.11.120 (not verified) at Wed, 09/26/2007 - 03:33
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the jhoria deck can be found on the mtg website in the building on a budget articles it was actully a two part article if i rember corectly. his version is tsp block legal and has card breakdowns match breakdowns and renovations. i made a deck framed around his design worth taking a look at if your interested in playing the deck.

by runeliger at Sat, 09/22/2007 - 23:54
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oh also, you forgot Boreal Druids (G for 1/1 that generates mana = good in deck)and pendelhaven (synergetic) in that decklist (I saw them, reviewing the game 1 of the matches the deck won).

Just saying...

by Lord Erman at Sun, 09/23/2007 - 06:50
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As someone, who used to write articles for PureMTGO about rogue decks, I am glad that someone finally at least attempts to do it again. As others have said, a little bit more detail would have been better, but that's all. Good luck in your future articles.

by dragonegg5 at Sun, 09/23/2007 - 12:31
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runeliger:

This was meant as a short look at some fringe decks before this format rotated. I don't believe any of these decks really have what it takes to be great, but they are fun to play, like I said, to kill some time in the TP room. I mean, I suppose I could write up in-dpeth analysis for these decks, but really what would be the point?  Dutch Chord is a very strong deck. The point I was trying to make there, was that this rogue deck crushed me; I felt like I had no chance. And yeah, I brought in the Harmonic Sliver, and got a Grave Pact, and he still ran me over. I was simply trying to illustrate that this rogue deck DEMOLISHED what I feel to be one of the top decks in standard, so it might be something to keep an eye on in the next few weeks.

 

The Token deck winning the 4x WAS a fluke. Just look at the data. How many PEs has it top 8d since its win? I've done the research, the answer is 0. The deck is cute, and fun, but not powerful enough to compete. The pilot got very lucky with matchups/draws/whatever. Feel free to disagree, but its the way I feel. 

 

Lastly, I'd just like to say that this article was meant to be short. This isn't the beginning of a pattern, only a little look at some neat decks before they vanished into obscurity. 

by dragonegg5 at Sun, 09/23/2007 - 12:42
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I did miss a couple of PEs, it appears the token deck Top 8ed a couple. Never made it past the quarters, however.

Being a cynic by runeliger at Sat, 09/22/2007 - 23:42
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(Azure is my cynical color heh)

I don't share the same opinion as that of khirareq. I for one, believe given the length of this article, a mere 650 words (including your name and AIM and modo information, but not the lists), I wonder why there are 3 cards that aren't autocarded.. Not sure if this is your fault or that of the editor's. However, I find the content of this article extremely lacking. I am a player of the standard game (although to be honest, it's a pretty dead format at this point, so I'm playtesting Ext. to help my friends who qualified for PT Valencia), and your analysis was quite lacking. Please try to take this constructively, but... for instance, your gravepact analysis was simply, "I was playing a version of Omnichord made by dutch people, and it lost to this deck, therefore I think this deck is definitely viable as a rogue deck". That's not really analysis, that just means either it's a tier 2 deck that is specifically designed and works to beat your deck, or you simply misplayed. Also, Chord of Calling does have Irik Stomphowler for enchantment removal, but I'm sure everyone would agree that running such a card just for the sake of combating that rogue deck would be pointless.

Also, your argument that the 4x winner was a fluke made me laugh... until I realized you were probably serious. You basically state a paradoxical statement, "Although it won the 4x, I'm thinking it's a fluke", makes no sense whatsoever. Standard 4x with an attendence of 128 players, that's 7 rounds of swiss and 3 rounds of top 8 play. He only lost one match in 9 rounds of player (he drew in the finals obviously), and beyond that had a 76% game win percentage. How you can simply call it a fluke, and basically state the obvious about how to play that game play makes me wonder.

Also, in terms of the deck's actual power. It's viability lies in the metagame. The current meta game if you've noticed revolve around a few decks: Angelfire, UB Teferi control, Aggro decks (sorry guys, grouping all of the goyf decks together), and some control decks. Angelfire, and UB Teferi control, many variants thereof don't run Wrath effects due to the inherent syngeries of having creatures alive (momentary blink and CIP effect creatures of angelfire) and the power spot removal of UB teferi control (although many variants do run Damnation nowdays). Thus this deck, given the heavily aggro meta, was perfect. This is what Flores (I suppose you know him, considering you listen to his podcasts) would probably call a good deck (and then ridicule the fact it only runs 3 overruns, and argue that you should probably have run 4).

 

Good attempt, but next time, try giving indepth analysis, or at least bother to make the article a bit longer.

 

by Anonymous (Unregistered) 69.180.70.236 (not verified) at Sat, 09/22/2007 - 15:35
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DO teps please :D

by khirareq at Sat, 09/22/2007 - 21:17
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Firstly, I'd like to point out that the author managed to get all but 3 cards autocarded correctly.  This is nearly unheard of.  I, for instance, have not figured out how to autocard correctly at all.  My hat's off to you sir!

The Jhoria deck is almost TSP legal.  Switch the remand for delay, the compulsive for foresee or careful consideration, change the martyr to sulfur and switch the land package and viola!  Time Spiral goodness.

Dutch Omnichord has nothing that kills enchantments?  Is this "Chord" as in "of Calling", as in the color green which has a love/kill relationship with enchantments?

Good article by mtgotraders at Sat, 09/22/2007 - 12:28
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Good article but needs some length. 

by urzishra (Unregistered) 74.214.249.213 (not verified) at Sat, 09/22/2007 - 14:22
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I would have liked to seen some more analysis on why the card choices would be good against the current standard metagame... but right now its the waning days of std as lorwyn looms..so maybe this should have waited a month for how to beat the next class of standard.