Well there were certainly some great green cards through the draft, so that would have worked. Without the benefit of foreknowledge though, at P1P2, I'd always pick the strongest card, which in this case was the adept. That has the further advantage of putting me in U/W, with the liklihood of picking up lots of flyers and constructing what is known to be a very solid archetype in the format.
As I said in the article, I tend to avoid green, but then it was green that happened to give me the most trouble in matches, so it appears I (like many others) undervalue the colour.
In retrospect, now that I know all the possible picks, I would have gone W/B, but green would have been solid too, and you're right, Cultivate is a useful card in this format.
In summary, I saw several very strong packs, so all colours (except red, typically) would have been very viable in this draft.
"Since when does everyone agree on anything?"
Well not everyone, but we don't need everyone.
What discordian madhouse do you live in where reasonable adults can't come to sensible agreements?
I don't want to sound like a jerk about this, and I apologize if I give offense, but the reason I find this part of the casual magic debate infuriating is that your definition is the favorite one of the slumming spike. The jerk who gets his jollies by trolling the casual room with his $500 (heck nowadays up to $1000) tourney deck ruining peoples afternoons (and usually being rude about it), he loves your definition of casual. The guys who crashed Tribal Apocalypse with tier one classic decks this spring, the asshole who brings a combo filled 100cs tourney deck to your commander game. In pants magic it's a lot easier to enforce a social contract that deals with such behavior. I think we can agree that online this is much harder to do. Just because Wizards has decided to have no opinion beyond "casual=unrated" doesn't mean that we as a community can't put more thought into it than that.
AJ: You are looking forward to "trying" to break Genesis Wave? The card is already broken. No part of that card should ever have been printed. Well done WotC.
Oh and thanks for giving away my Mox Imprint tech. I already built the deck and was just waiting for scars to be released. Just add Clock of Omens, artifact lands, and an opponent's end of turn step. You'll have as much mana/artifacts as you want on your turn. hehehe
Thanks for pointing out the brokenness of the XG instant COMMON. Sigh. Will WotC ever learn? I don't know who is dumber. Them for making it or us for continuing to be abused by them.
I've been testing mass polymorph as well. Not sure why you want It That Betrays or Brood Warden. This seems like overkill. If you resolve a Emrakul, you've already won. Having a bunch of 2/2 brood tokens and a permanent stealer isn't going to help you win any more. Also, drop the cultivate for Growth Spasm. I know why you're running cultivate, but Spasm is better. I also think you are running too many creatures. Filling your deck with creatures makes Mass Polymorph worse, not better. I do like your inclusion of the Wurm, I had not thought of him. I have been trying out Novablast Wurm, which is pretty gross. It totally did not have the desired effect.
P.S. Raddman, Platinum Angel and that guy form Scars works very nicely in this deck.
“hand shroud” already exists with Leyline of Sanctity as library/hand and other affects that give a player shroud (generally).
nice deck - no real testing against combo or decks that would run enchant/arti hate. The Dreams/Vise deck should have been an auto win. If he counters/or destroys the bond you pretty much fail (if it is a UB build). No matter how much life you can gain, it gets you in the end - a Blood Chief variant is inevitable probably.
Vindicate is good, but pulse is sub-par in most classic games I end up in, unless it is elves or goblins, but as above... any combo deck is not going to be bothered but pulse.
Whoa - Who wudda thought again casual brings up a endless array of replies.
For me a 'Casual' game is more about the ability to rock on up - play a game and leave. Or in other words play MTGO casually at your leisure. Why - simply because if it was about the cards or anything else - would it not be regulated?, or further restricted/documented so there was this clarity of what a Casual Game is (as opposed to a game of MTG played casually)- remember you can have the same cards in a Tournament Deck as in a Casual Room game.
I agree that sideboards are not for casual, especially as often people design decks that overall sit poorly in performance when tested against a broad array of cards. People who concede/block to Land Destruction - have pretty much admitted their deck cannot deal with it. Nor are they interested in accounting for it. Likewise milling, lifegain or whatever. Very much as stated the RDW hates the player who gains life.
But this is the beauty to me of MTG. It has it all and is ever evolving. I could block/complain about people all day - but instead I prefer to play them. I would rather concede and move on, coming back to them another time to see how I go (with a answer usually).
Essentially the more people block people - the less people they will play. The less variety they will see and surprise surprise - their deck will likely not evolve/improve instead become honed into the metagame your blocking has provided you with.
I make a lot of decks and in lots of Formats/Colors. I must say in all honesty I have no doubt annoyed some people with my decks (really who can claim with 100% certainty that they haven't). However sometimes it is about taking opportunity. What people forget is there is 2 sides to a game. What you draw and play - likewise what your opponent draws/plays.
A game the other night I had a opening hand including Land Tax, Strip Mine and Maze of Ith in a WG Vial Rock Titan deck of mine. Now most players would think - oh no only 1 mana producing land and it's colorless, subsequently mulliganing. Whereas I am of the opinion - this looks interesting. Turn 1 they play a land, I then play Strip Mine and kill his and see how long till I draw some real mana. And guess what my opponent had only 1 land in hand and everything was 2cc or more, so spent 5 turns drawing / discarding cards - I drew the 1 needed land next turn to get Land Tax out.
Now that is a choice by me as a player to take advantage (with a little luck) of what hand I was dealt. Just as my opponent made theirs. I am not going to roll over and say 'that's too cruel' - I had no mana sources after that action. They could have just as easily ran me over the next few turns. Likewise the deck is not a LD deck (1 balance and a Strip Mine) - but it can operate like one in how I play it. So if I chose to play it wisely - I get blocked?
Seems to me the overriding argument here from people is - If you catch my deck out with something it cannot handle - I can either look at my deck design and find a way of making sure I can handle/better handle the situation or to block you. This seems to follow on from the premise that players want to win - either by fixing their deck or not playing decks that can beat them... (blocking).
I would like to say thanks to people who play things like LD, Discard and every type of deck. It is this variant and every challenging 'what comes next' differences of decks that make MTG a great game. But alas like any sport there are people who are good and bad winners/losers.
If they changed the name from casual to unrated then the "casual is such and such" folks would have a lot less ground to stand on. Or even better just call it Open Play...
good questions - for it to be a workable frame of reference it needs to be shared - I could say casual means it comes with free beer and wenches, but I am just setting myself up for failure right?
Renaming the room, and exiling an reference to casual, with a clear statement from the company saying there is no official definition of casual... maybe that could begin cultural change? otherwise, rigidly holding a view because we don't like to change it is hardly going to be effective.
Changing policy at WOTC may be an act of futility... Part of the noise I am presently trying to make about the ORCS is not to actually point out that they fail - but to point out that they MUST fail. I think we need to provide them with more - whatever more is.
I put dialect in a couple of times... but it seemed fail.. slang is good. It would have worked, fair point.
I would've P1p2 the Cultivate, then P1p3 the Troll, P1p4 the Giant Spider. You see where I'm going here? Armored Ascension is insane in this archetype w/ Troll and Sacred Wolf. You may have even been able to splash a color. Adept was a solid pick as well though b/c it cuts Blue, but I still would like to hear your opinion on Cultivate there. It's a very underrated card for green and very necessary. It also cuts green. You ended up with a descent deck though, so it's hard to say what the outcome, in a draft with such quality cards all across the board in every pack, would be.
Infiltration Lens - this is some mad card advantage.
Genesis Wave - with the amount of mana available late-game, this can blow out the board state
Tainted Strike - all of a sudden 9 unblocked damage = game over.
well im impressed that for the frst time in both this and the wotc forum thread you actually explained yourself. And I agree with you. WotC should do more to monitor what may be offensive terms from other parts of the world. The fact that someone saying wanker, sheila, or rock spider(i most know where this comes from, its just funny without context), is totally ignored, is also ignorance on the part of wizards/orcs. Is wotc going to change their policy? Probably not. Should they..well now that you were clear with explaining some of your issue, i agree that they should.
Im sure there are gamer terms that may be offensive to other parts of the world that we as americans use as well. True the main ones Im thinking of like noob and such dont strike as anything that could be offensive but i also only know english, spanish, and a little german and japanese. the big one I see a lot is when someone says I just raped so and so...I'll admit i have been guilty of this once or twice before but both times was called out on it by a friend and have since caught myself before i hit send.
Hopefully I am actually understanding your point now. though i would suggest changing language to something more like dialect or slang...i personally think slang may fit best.
Shard, you clearly do not understand what I am saying. A language can have its origin in terms of it being an anglo/saxon or latin or hispanic or... w/e - this is not what I am referring to. IT can also have its origin in terms of demographic or socio-economic or education context - this IS what I am referring to.
Please stop trying to argue with something I am not saying.
I AM saying, as you have so adequately proved above, that there are certain cultural assumptions - gamer, and North American cultural values, these permeate the dominate word choices that are used in client. These word chocies are deemed offensive or innoffensive with no consultation with the rest of the world.
Would it mean anything to you if I called you a Rock Spider? or a Twat or a Wanker or a Sheila, or a Kaffa? Maybe, maybe not. The point is, that there seems to be little attempt on behalf of WOTC to have empathy for the cultural context of the users outside of North America. Please make your claim that it doesn't need to, and I am a fool for point it out. Anyone not from your part of the world will see it as further evidence of the point I am making. The truth is, this is a global game, and it has the capacity to thrive even more if WOTC sought to be more inclusive of markets outside North America. If I am wrong, and MTGO does not need players from outside North America I am happy to cease and decist.... This is not about whether we speak english or chinese... it is about culural biases that are latent in the dominant language of the dominant group. In our case it is white, middle class, educated, male, nerds mostly from North America.
For what it is worth, if you respond with no new ideas, or abuse again, I am going to ignore you. I tire of having to correct your generalisations and assumptions, anger and hatred. Racism is uncool.
Did you ever use vent when you were in CK Shard? Might have talked to you there.
I was devastated by the draft during pre-release. I did okay during the sealed, but did surprisingly bad during the drafts (I usually did quite well on RoE, M11, and Zen/Worldwake). I grabbed white for the pseudo wing shards and arrest, but no other clear removal came my way after the first pack. I was stuck with terrible removal with bad colors. While the winners of the draft were poison players, those that did well drafted better and relying on metalcraft with 10 artifacts or less was a poor choice on my part (the only thing I really learned, is only go for metalcraft if you have good artifacts; don't grab a memnite for that +1 metalcraft).
That being said, I'd love all the advice in regards to what you pull and why.
I've been testing a similar deck for FNM here in good ole Indiana.
Here is my list:
4 Growth Spasm
4 Nest Invader
2 Kozilek's Predator
4 Mass Polymorph
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Ulamog, The Infinite Gyre
1 Terastodon
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Platinum Angel - testing this and the 8/8 guy from scars where your life total doesn't change
4 Mana Leak
3 Into the Roil
4 See Beyond
3 Avenger of Zendikar
2 Unifed Will
SB:
3 Pelakka Wurm
1 Terastodon
4 Flashfreeze
1 All is Dust
4 Negate
2 Mind Control
The deck is an absolute blast to play, I have yet to lose to boros bushwacker and it does well vs soul sisters. Unfortunately the deck just isn't there yet. I think maybe adding Garruk to help out your tokens and defense might be a viable option. I also saw one version running Jace Beleren.
this was the part i was referencing- The client is *culturally* language biased towards North American English - this is, by definition, difficult to explain (for me, so it is on me, not you - I am being vague because I lack sufficient words, not because I think you are stupid - it is your assumption on this, not mine.) I tender as evidence that numerous non-english-speaking players (most un-known to me before I posted on the wotc boards, pm'd me in client and said "I completely agree". (Irony being I am not certain I have articulated the situation clearly enough for people to agree or disagree... lol).
Of course the client is going to be language biased to the country it was created in. I fail to see how this is important though. Wizards could probably make extra clients where things like game options and and menu screens are in different languages but as far as what I would consider the most "biased" part (chat) there really isnt anything they could could to promote foreign languages without having it de-volve into chaos.(not a good thing)
@Shard- Why do you have to tell someone to shut up?
You, for a matter of fact don't speak that way in person.
What makes you think that you are smarter than the "stupid troll"?
@Ith- Speed limits now?...Really?
Speed limits are different in all countries. Germany, which has autobahns where speed minimums are 40-50 and no limit is set-Swiss,Austrian limit is 130- just an advisory for 80mph, requires you to pass a 14 hour driving test over the course of 2 days to qualify for a license.
Most people speed and those same people probably Jay walk, they do so when the way is clear-cops don't even enforce it-. Terrible analogy and the parallels are not the same. In your view the speed limit should be say 60ish, so no one knows if 63 will get them a ticket, while I think 65 is okay since I havent been detected yet. Wonderful order to things. Strong punishment is a deterent and knowing what gets you to that is what creates an order. Speeding enforcment is there to save lives and not blur the lines of what is and isnt acceptable. How do you correlate that with rule infractions on MtGO, where lives arent at stake or health for that matter?
Another issue is with the school yard name calling, somehow seems to have been implied by you that i baited Fatguy into calling me names, when clearly he responded to my posts that were unsolicited.
Only person I flat out called a derogatory, school yard name is you.
You can check those pages and what was moderated were my replies back to being baited/trolled by Tempest and the one where I called you male genetelia.
On Vague- how many reasons do you need to chronicle, or maybe we should start a poll perhaps?
What were WotC's customer service ratings for the last year? Since I dont see them i can conclude you're vague.
Hey Shard... I am not talking about what language I use, I am talking about how the language we use is culturally biased. Do you understand what I mean by that, or am I being ambiguous. Happy to explain further, but don't want to look like a smartass - and feel I already did in this thread.
If I was a troll, I would make a point about how your response pretty much captures the whole point I am making about cultural imperialism, but I'm not, and will leave it there.
I speak english for the record, and I would never refer to languages other than engish as being gibberish. Seems racist somehow.
Well there were certainly some great green cards through the draft, so that would have worked. Without the benefit of foreknowledge though, at P1P2, I'd always pick the strongest card, which in this case was the adept. That has the further advantage of putting me in U/W, with the liklihood of picking up lots of flyers and constructing what is known to be a very solid archetype in the format.
As I said in the article, I tend to avoid green, but then it was green that happened to give me the most trouble in matches, so it appears I (like many others) undervalue the colour.
In retrospect, now that I know all the possible picks, I would have gone W/B, but green would have been solid too, and you're right, Cultivate is a useful card in this format.
In summary, I saw several very strong packs, so all colours (except red, typically) would have been very viable in this draft.
"Since when does everyone agree on anything?"
Well not everyone, but we don't need everyone.
What discordian madhouse do you live in where reasonable adults can't come to sensible agreements?
I don't want to sound like a jerk about this, and I apologize if I give offense, but the reason I find this part of the casual magic debate infuriating is that your definition is the favorite one of the slumming spike. The jerk who gets his jollies by trolling the casual room with his $500 (heck nowadays up to $1000) tourney deck ruining peoples afternoons (and usually being rude about it), he loves your definition of casual. The guys who crashed Tribal Apocalypse with tier one classic decks this spring, the asshole who brings a combo filled 100cs tourney deck to your commander game. In pants magic it's a lot easier to enforce a social contract that deals with such behavior. I think we can agree that online this is much harder to do. Just because Wizards has decided to have no opinion beyond "casual=unrated" doesn't mean that we as a community can't put more thought into it than that.
AJ: You are looking forward to "trying" to break Genesis Wave? The card is already broken. No part of that card should ever have been printed. Well done WotC.
Oh and thanks for giving away my Mox Imprint tech. I already built the deck and was just waiting for scars to be released. Just add Clock of Omens, artifact lands, and an opponent's end of turn step. You'll have as much mana/artifacts as you want on your turn. hehehe
Thanks for pointing out the brokenness of the XG instant COMMON. Sigh. Will WotC ever learn? I don't know who is dumber. Them for making it or us for continuing to be abused by them.
I love the idea of Dark Depths and Helm/Line feels like it should just work. Great list, am going to keep tweaking mine for giggles.
Good Article
I've been testing mass polymorph as well. Not sure why you want It That Betrays or Brood Warden. This seems like overkill. If you resolve a Emrakul, you've already won. Having a bunch of 2/2 brood tokens and a permanent stealer isn't going to help you win any more. Also, drop the cultivate for Growth Spasm. I know why you're running cultivate, but Spasm is better. I also think you are running too many creatures. Filling your deck with creatures makes Mass Polymorph worse, not better. I do like your inclusion of the Wurm, I had not thought of him. I have been trying out Novablast Wurm, which is pretty gross. It totally did not have the desired effect.
P.S. Raddman, Platinum Angel and that guy form Scars works very nicely in this deck.
a very good article, and even though your writing style doesn't appeal to me, it's hard to ignore your sheer enthusiasm.
Well done.
“hand shroud” already exists with Leyline of Sanctity as library/hand and other affects that give a player shroud (generally).
nice deck - no real testing against combo or decks that would run enchant/arti hate. The Dreams/Vise deck should have been an auto win. If he counters/or destroys the bond you pretty much fail (if it is a UB build). No matter how much life you can gain, it gets you in the end - a Blood Chief variant is inevitable probably.
Vindicate is good, but pulse is sub-par in most classic games I end up in, unless it is elves or goblins, but as above... any combo deck is not going to be bothered but pulse.
Just... +1
Whoa - Who wudda thought again casual brings up a endless array of replies.
For me a 'Casual' game is more about the ability to rock on up - play a game and leave. Or in other words play MTGO casually at your leisure. Why - simply because if it was about the cards or anything else - would it not be regulated?, or further restricted/documented so there was this clarity of what a Casual Game is (as opposed to a game of MTG played casually)- remember you can have the same cards in a Tournament Deck as in a Casual Room game.
I agree that sideboards are not for casual, especially as often people design decks that overall sit poorly in performance when tested against a broad array of cards. People who concede/block to Land Destruction - have pretty much admitted their deck cannot deal with it. Nor are they interested in accounting for it. Likewise milling, lifegain or whatever. Very much as stated the RDW hates the player who gains life.
But this is the beauty to me of MTG. It has it all and is ever evolving. I could block/complain about people all day - but instead I prefer to play them. I would rather concede and move on, coming back to them another time to see how I go (with a answer usually).
Essentially the more people block people - the less people they will play. The less variety they will see and surprise surprise - their deck will likely not evolve/improve instead become honed into the metagame your blocking has provided you with.
I make a lot of decks and in lots of Formats/Colors. I must say in all honesty I have no doubt annoyed some people with my decks (really who can claim with 100% certainty that they haven't). However sometimes it is about taking opportunity. What people forget is there is 2 sides to a game. What you draw and play - likewise what your opponent draws/plays.
A game the other night I had a opening hand including Land Tax, Strip Mine and Maze of Ith in a WG Vial Rock Titan deck of mine. Now most players would think - oh no only 1 mana producing land and it's colorless, subsequently mulliganing. Whereas I am of the opinion - this looks interesting. Turn 1 they play a land, I then play Strip Mine and kill his and see how long till I draw some real mana. And guess what my opponent had only 1 land in hand and everything was 2cc or more, so spent 5 turns drawing / discarding cards - I drew the 1 needed land next turn to get Land Tax out.
Now that is a choice by me as a player to take advantage (with a little luck) of what hand I was dealt. Just as my opponent made theirs. I am not going to roll over and say 'that's too cruel' - I had no mana sources after that action. They could have just as easily ran me over the next few turns. Likewise the deck is not a LD deck (1 balance and a Strip Mine) - but it can operate like one in how I play it. So if I chose to play it wisely - I get blocked?
Seems to me the overriding argument here from people is - If you catch my deck out with something it cannot handle - I can either look at my deck design and find a way of making sure I can handle/better handle the situation or to block you. This seems to follow on from the premise that players want to win - either by fixing their deck or not playing decks that can beat them... (blocking).
I would like to say thanks to people who play things like LD, Discard and every type of deck. It is this variant and every challenging 'what comes next' differences of decks that make MTG a great game. But alas like any sport there are people who are good and bad winners/losers.
If they changed the name from casual to unrated then the "casual is such and such" folks would have a lot less ground to stand on. Or even better just call it Open Play...
good questions - for it to be a workable frame of reference it needs to be shared - I could say casual means it comes with free beer and wenches, but I am just setting myself up for failure right?
Renaming the room, and exiling an reference to casual, with a clear statement from the company saying there is no official definition of casual... maybe that could begin cultural change? otherwise, rigidly holding a view because we don't like to change it is hardly going to be effective.
:)
Changing policy at WOTC may be an act of futility... Part of the noise I am presently trying to make about the ORCS is not to actually point out that they fail - but to point out that they MUST fail. I think we need to provide them with more - whatever more is.
I put dialect in a couple of times... but it seemed fail.. slang is good. It would have worked, fair point.
oops...
I would've P1p2 the Cultivate, then P1p3 the Troll, P1p4 the Giant Spider. You see where I'm going here? Armored Ascension is insane in this archetype w/ Troll and Sacred Wolf. You may have even been able to splash a color. Adept was a solid pick as well though b/c it cuts Blue, but I still would like to hear your opinion on Cultivate there. It's a very underrated card for green and very necessary. It also cuts green. You ended up with a descent deck though, so it's hard to say what the outcome, in a draft with such quality cards all across the board in every pack, would be.
"i think he is trying to say that while WotC says Casual=Unrated, obviously that isnt a good enough definition for some people."
Just because it's not good enough for some people doesn't give them the right change the meaning.
What about the people who it is good enough for?
I'll go with:
Infiltration Lens - this is some mad card advantage.
Genesis Wave - with the amount of mana available late-game, this can blow out the board state
Tainted Strike - all of a sudden 9 unblocked damage = game over.
well im impressed that for the frst time in both this and the wotc forum thread you actually explained yourself. And I agree with you. WotC should do more to monitor what may be offensive terms from other parts of the world. The fact that someone saying wanker, sheila, or rock spider(i most know where this comes from, its just funny without context), is totally ignored, is also ignorance on the part of wizards/orcs. Is wotc going to change their policy? Probably not. Should they..well now that you were clear with explaining some of your issue, i agree that they should.
Im sure there are gamer terms that may be offensive to other parts of the world that we as americans use as well. True the main ones Im thinking of like noob and such dont strike as anything that could be offensive but i also only know english, spanish, and a little german and japanese. the big one I see a lot is when someone says I just raped so and so...I'll admit i have been guilty of this once or twice before but both times was called out on it by a friend and have since caught myself before i hit send.
Hopefully I am actually understanding your point now. though i would suggest changing language to something more like dialect or slang...i personally think slang may fit best.
Shard, you clearly do not understand what I am saying. A language can have its origin in terms of it being an anglo/saxon or latin or hispanic or... w/e - this is not what I am referring to. IT can also have its origin in terms of demographic or socio-economic or education context - this IS what I am referring to.
Please stop trying to argue with something I am not saying.
I AM saying, as you have so adequately proved above, that there are certain cultural assumptions - gamer, and North American cultural values, these permeate the dominate word choices that are used in client. These word chocies are deemed offensive or innoffensive with no consultation with the rest of the world.
Would it mean anything to you if I called you a Rock Spider? or a Twat or a Wanker or a Sheila, or a Kaffa? Maybe, maybe not. The point is, that there seems to be little attempt on behalf of WOTC to have empathy for the cultural context of the users outside of North America. Please make your claim that it doesn't need to, and I am a fool for point it out. Anyone not from your part of the world will see it as further evidence of the point I am making. The truth is, this is a global game, and it has the capacity to thrive even more if WOTC sought to be more inclusive of markets outside North America. If I am wrong, and MTGO does not need players from outside North America I am happy to cease and decist.... This is not about whether we speak english or chinese... it is about culural biases that are latent in the dominant language of the dominant group. In our case it is white, middle class, educated, male, nerds mostly from North America.
For what it is worth, if you respond with no new ideas, or abuse again, I am going to ignore you. I tire of having to correct your generalisations and assumptions, anger and hatred. Racism is uncool.
Did you ever use vent when you were in CK Shard? Might have talked to you there.
I was devastated by the draft during pre-release. I did okay during the sealed, but did surprisingly bad during the drafts (I usually did quite well on RoE, M11, and Zen/Worldwake). I grabbed white for the pseudo wing shards and arrest, but no other clear removal came my way after the first pack. I was stuck with terrible removal with bad colors. While the winners of the draft were poison players, those that did well drafted better and relying on metalcraft with 10 artifacts or less was a poor choice on my part (the only thing I really learned, is only go for metalcraft if you have good artifacts; don't grab a memnite for that +1 metalcraft).
That being said, I'd love all the advice in regards to what you pull and why.
I've been testing a similar deck for FNM here in good ole Indiana.
Here is my list:
4 Growth Spasm
4 Nest Invader
2 Kozilek's Predator
4 Mass Polymorph
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Ulamog, The Infinite Gyre
1 Terastodon
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Platinum Angel - testing this and the 8/8 guy from scars where your life total doesn't change
4 Mana Leak
3 Into the Roil
4 See Beyond
3 Avenger of Zendikar
2 Unifed Will
4 Khalni Garden
2 Misty Rainforest
2 Scalding Tarn
3 Tectonic Edge
5 Island
5 Forest
3 Halimar Depths
SB:
3 Pelakka Wurm
1 Terastodon
4 Flashfreeze
1 All is Dust
4 Negate
2 Mind Control
The deck is an absolute blast to play, I have yet to lose to boros bushwacker and it does well vs soul sisters. Unfortunately the deck just isn't there yet. I think maybe adding Garruk to help out your tokens and defense might be a viable option. I also saw one version running Jace Beleren.
this was the part i was referencing- The client is *culturally* language biased towards North American English - this is, by definition, difficult to explain (for me, so it is on me, not you - I am being vague because I lack sufficient words, not because I think you are stupid - it is your assumption on this, not mine.) I tender as evidence that numerous non-english-speaking players (most un-known to me before I posted on the wotc boards, pm'd me in client and said "I completely agree". (Irony being I am not certain I have articulated the situation clearly enough for people to agree or disagree... lol).
Of course the client is going to be language biased to the country it was created in. I fail to see how this is important though. Wizards could probably make extra clients where things like game options and and menu screens are in different languages but as far as what I would consider the most "biased" part (chat) there really isnt anything they could could to promote foreign languages without having it de-volve into chaos.(not a good thing)
ANd Menace how do you know how i talk in person?
I use MS Paint, Excel, and Powerpoint for all of my graphics.
I actually make mine with MS Paint...
@Shard- Why do you have to tell someone to shut up?
You, for a matter of fact don't speak that way in person.
What makes you think that you are smarter than the "stupid troll"?
@Ith- Speed limits now?...Really?
Speed limits are different in all countries. Germany, which has autobahns where speed minimums are 40-50 and no limit is set-Swiss,Austrian limit is 130- just an advisory for 80mph, requires you to pass a 14 hour driving test over the course of 2 days to qualify for a license.
Most people speed and those same people probably Jay walk, they do so when the way is clear-cops don't even enforce it-. Terrible analogy and the parallels are not the same. In your view the speed limit should be say 60ish, so no one knows if 63 will get them a ticket, while I think 65 is okay since I havent been detected yet. Wonderful order to things. Strong punishment is a deterent and knowing what gets you to that is what creates an order. Speeding enforcment is there to save lives and not blur the lines of what is and isnt acceptable. How do you correlate that with rule infractions on MtGO, where lives arent at stake or health for that matter?
Another issue is with the school yard name calling, somehow seems to have been implied by you that i baited Fatguy into calling me names, when clearly he responded to my posts that were unsolicited.
Only person I flat out called a derogatory, school yard name is you.
You can check those pages and what was moderated were my replies back to being baited/trolled by Tempest and the one where I called you male genetelia.
On Vague- how many reasons do you need to chronicle, or maybe we should start a poll perhaps?
What were WotC's customer service ratings for the last year? Since I dont see them i can conclude you're vague.
Hey Shard... I am not talking about what language I use, I am talking about how the language we use is culturally biased. Do you understand what I mean by that, or am I being ambiguous. Happy to explain further, but don't want to look like a smartass - and feel I already did in this thread.
If I was a troll, I would make a point about how your response pretty much captures the whole point I am making about cultural imperialism, but I'm not, and will leave it there.
I speak english for the record, and I would never refer to languages other than engish as being gibberish. Seems racist somehow.