VERY scary how similar our teneb decks are..though I think most teneb decks do look the same just playing the most powerful cards of the color to fit the theme. Things I do recommend which you've already mentioned are: survival of the fittest and karmic guide. Guide is cheap, and totally 100% worth it. Karmic and volrath's stronghold + a sac outlet = infinite CITP effects. You also need NEED living death. Card is nuts period, you will likely have your stuff in the yard first, and even if you don't yours will be bigger (if you can get them there that is). Enlighted tutor is another must IMO, if anything to whip out sylvan or phyrexian the first couple turns. Sensei's annoying top is a staple too, along with greaves to start bursting with your recurred dudes.
(On a side note i've started using your oros deck with some minor tweaks (mainly to $$ the manabase and add a few forger searchers) and gone 3/3. It's a fun awesome deck...really needs the Double creature dmg enchant though which name slips my mind atm, but turns oros 3 into a usual sweeping 6. That deck with karmic turns into another pseudo reanimator comboed with volrath, miren, and CITP guys like hellkite and despair. Karmic gets them back for only 5 mana, so she's beast. play her!) Love your articles, EDH is something i've gotten into in the last month or so and it's a blast when standard starts to go stagnant. Keep up the good work!
-Jason
This was great. I remember when I first started MTGO I would always buy a case of beer before the PDC Block PRE's and see if I could finish the beer before I was knocked out of the tourney. Some nights top 4 matches got really interesting...
Excellent article this week. I know my first commander deck of all time was teneb as well. I used a higher creature base with loads of beneficial CiP abilities and some hard to kill fat. Now though Im working on a budgeted Kaervek build. So far only at 5 tickets for the whole deck. Havent won yet but normally Im the second place guy.
is playing naughty things with the intention of making people sad.
simple counter and control decks do not inherently fit the bill, in my opinion.
coincidently i do play a GWB Jenara deck too, lots of copy, control, denial and manaramp, but seldomly enough anyone calls me a griefer.
it's mostly a question of playstyle and intention.
Yepyep.. great deck... This deck ended my deck testing session when I reached grixis after trying out variations of blue control and selling my elspeth. Couldn't figure out how to attack it when it plays so differently from most control decks.. =(
Relax, I'm just highlighting the need to kill the enabler. I liked your tech and I'm not saying ban any of it, it takes time and effort to build a good prison. The baseline should be idyllic tutor/sterling grove and fabricate rather than the mirage really cheap fetches.
I did as well but I just googled it, its "We're in the pipe, five by five" meaning "We're on track and read you loud and clear."
I've always thought she says; 'It's in the pipe, five five five.' I'll have to watch it again now.
Excellent article!
But then you dilute the blue mana symbols for Sanity Grinding.
Gratuitous Violence perhaps? I didnt look it up but the name seems right
VERY scary how similar our teneb decks are..though I think most teneb decks do look the same just playing the most powerful cards of the color to fit the theme. Things I do recommend which you've already mentioned are: survival of the fittest and karmic guide. Guide is cheap, and totally 100% worth it. Karmic and volrath's stronghold + a sac outlet = infinite CITP effects. You also need NEED living death. Card is nuts period, you will likely have your stuff in the yard first, and even if you don't yours will be bigger (if you can get them there that is). Enlighted tutor is another must IMO, if anything to whip out sylvan or phyrexian the first couple turns. Sensei's annoying top is a staple too, along with greaves to start bursting with your recurred dudes.
(On a side note i've started using your oros deck with some minor tweaks (mainly to $$ the manabase and add a few forger searchers) and gone 3/3. It's a fun awesome deck...really needs the Double creature dmg enchant though which name slips my mind atm, but turns oros 3 into a usual sweeping 6. That deck with karmic turns into another pseudo reanimator comboed with volrath, miren, and CITP guys like hellkite and despair. Karmic gets them back for only 5 mana, so she's beast. play her!) Love your articles, EDH is something i've gotten into in the last month or so and it's a blast when standard starts to go stagnant. Keep up the good work!
-Jason
This was great. I remember when I first started MTGO I would always buy a case of beer before the PDC Block PRE's and see if I could finish the beer before I was knocked out of the tourney. Some nights top 4 matches got really interesting...
Excellent article this week. I know my first commander deck of all time was teneb as well. I used a higher creature base with loads of beneficial CiP abilities and some hard to kill fat. Now though Im working on a budgeted Kaervek build. So far only at 5 tickets for the whole deck. Havent won yet but normally Im the second place guy.
Unsure what happened on the first paragraph but I couldnt fix it, my bad.
Glimpse the unthinkable should be glimpse of nature...i was tired when I wrote it. But you can see the full banned list if you go to:
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75846/25284405/Tribal_Apocal...
Note: The spam filter, does it really need to do this anytime someone posts a link?
My I suggest you add glimpse of nature to that list. Combo elves sucks donkey dick.
GWU...GWU GWB would be a doran deck.
is playing naughty things with the intention of making people sad.
simple counter and control decks do not inherently fit the bill, in my opinion.
coincidently i do play a GWB Jenara deck too, lots of copy, control, denial and manaramp, but seldomly enough anyone calls me a griefer.
it's mostly a question of playstyle and intention.
I run two copies of Dragon Breath, just in case.
I'm able to cast him and the enchant and kick him off it does require a perfect hand but I've managed it.
Yepyep.. great deck... This deck ended my deck testing session when I reached grixis after trying out variations of blue control and selling my elspeth. Couldn't figure out how to attack it when it plays so differently from most control decks.. =(
@flippers- How do you get around no Haste with Hermit Druid?
and its like the same 4 people lol
Great, the only one of those cards I even own is the top! This doesn't effect me at all!
Note: I hardcasted Iona in the 2HG tribal a week or so back.
Relax, I'm just highlighting the need to kill the enabler. I liked your tech and I'm not saying ban any of it, it takes time and effort to build a good prison. The baseline should be idyllic tutor/sterling grove and fabricate rather than the mirage really cheap fetches.
Oh Shard please can you post the full list including the in game banned cards on your group so its easy to find.
Tribal Apocalypse
ok so we have this now, which is looking really nice. Was Hermit being moved to banned?
I'm going to start looking at making some new decks :)
New Bannings
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Mystical Tutor
Helm of Obedience
Painters Servant
Sneak Attack
Emrakul
Progenitus
Doomsday
Watch List
Enlightened Tutor
Natural Order
Glimpse the Unthinkable
Hypergenesis
Hermit Druid
Sensei's Divining Top
Aether Vial
btw Shard congrats on the most comments I've ever seen on an article lol
But I did play it on the same turn you used your own Enlightened Tutor, I just had a better target for it.
I have a tribal Hermit Druid deck that can win on turn one....
oops u said that shifting wouldnt also cover okay then
Order of the sacred,Stromgal cabal,Llawan,Both blasts,gainsay,Oona thats just from the
no worries i was just playing devils advocate :) I personally don't think that Enlightened needs banning.