"It would seem to me that a mono-red deck would not have artifacts in it. Or was there some sort of percentage that the deck could have of non-red spells? I'm not trying to be mean or stupid here, just saying when people normally say "mono-x color" they mean ALL their non-land spells are that color."
@blau
I'd have to disagree ... I don't know anyone that would define mono colored decks that way.
Artifact is not a color ... the only color in his deck is red .. hence mono red
With regards to posting the same article at two different sites, I can see why people are upset. Since PureMTGO essentially pays people to write these articles, it does seem unfair to the other people who would like to write for PureMTGO and don't get their articles published, to watch as someone just phones in an article and gets paid for it.
I have read both articles and they are remarkably similar to each other, which has me thinking, if you can't write two different articles for two different sites, then don't write for two different sites. I would think the readers of STG feel just as cheated as the readers here. It also made me reflect on this same type of thing that happened, I think like five years ago. There was a writer who was writing for Brainburst (remember that site?) who was also writing for WOTC's site Magicthegathering.com. Well not once, but two weeks in a row he handed in the same article to both sites. WOTC promptly fired him as did Brainburst. Both sites stating that, since they paid for the article, technically, they had the rights to publish it. They felt cheated out of their money since they were getting non-exclusive content. I don't know how SCG does writer compensation, but I can see them being a little upset by this article showing up here. I would also think that PureMTGO's editor might have a response to this as well.
Gonna have to agree with JustSin. This article needed a heck of a lot more background info. You mentioned that the theme for the week was mono-red, but you were running all kinds of artifacts. It would seem to me that a mono-red deck would not have artifacts in it. Or was there some sort of percentage that the deck could have of non-red spells? I'm not trying to be mean or stupid here, just saying when people normally say "mono-x color" they mean ALL their non-land spells are that color. If I had participated, and built a deck using my definition of mono-red, I would have been pretty cheesed off when I saw you play SoFI.
I enjoyed reading this even though I am not a ptq player and never will be again. Damping Matrix? Not a huge surprise. Top 4 in Atlanta is no small accomplishment...Friends and I took a road trip down there just after Mirage and it was a beating even back then. Lots of good players down there.
First of all, i don't really care much for any of the motives when people write an article, and neither should you guys.
What i do care about is the pointers given to people when the writers of these articles take countless hours to test stuff and come up with (or face) the hate cards as they go along.
I for one had not thought of celestial purge or damping matrix.
I could write a nice article about magoshi the waterveil and how it beats hivemind, but hey.. it wasn't my tech in the first place and i didn't hoard them yet :P
Be more considerate, considering the effort Todd has put into this article.
The problem is, you only get a one turn break -- they hit you on their turn 1, you bounce it on your turn one, they replay it on their turn 2 and swing again on their turn 3, so the only turn they miss is the one where they replay it. As far as the other applications... spending 5 at sorcery speed to bounce one of your guys may be viable, but unless you're up around 8 mana you're not going to replay whatever you bounce that turn, and allies aside the CIP effects aren't that exciting to reuse in draft. Granted, you get a 3/3 body left behind that will hopefully be able to block, but even so, the 'tapped' requirement turns out to be a much bigger deal than I would have expected at first, and I'd put this as actively worse than Paradox Haze at this point.
... it's amazing that you turned in the same article for two sites. I could care less about the prospecting portion - feel free to use your pulpit any way you see fit, and your cachet is nowhere near large enough to really make this an insanely profitable venture.
The reason why, in fact, is that you do stuff like . . . turning in the same article for two different sites. Did you just "Save As..." and work out of the same Word window? We get it - Pridemage is good again. Maybe you can write an article for LSV saying it, too. Bant Charm? Where did I hear about that last? Oh yeah - 11pm Eastern, on SCG. From you.
Damping Matrix is not an effective solution. Many times you'll be staring at a 20/20 indestructible flying creature before you have a chance to cast it. Honestly I would rather have another copy of Echoing Truth or Chain of Vapor. I guess it's harder to horde those two cards and corner the market though...
this is laughable....wow mtgolibrary is out. They suck anyways. Traders still has 28 Damping Matrix in stock. I highly doubt todd is trying to undercut anyone here since common sense would be to buy out all the copies on the site that his damping matrix links too...
plus the card has sat bewteen .50 and 1 forever...its still not moving.
The card was also talked about on the mp3 from "Freed from the Real #49 - Worldwake-y eggs and bac-y". But you had to listen to the very end to hear it.
Why is business ethics now the theme of this comment-thread? Obviously the card is useful for stopping the Dark Depths combo and the Thopter Factory combo. It's not as if he's the only one playing Damping Matrix, and it's not like Damping Matrix is worth a ton anyway. It's a good card. The best way I can think of to thank Todd for the info would be to go buy a playset of Matrices from him.
buzz was already created on matrix from an earlier decklist by qazwsxedcrfvtg or w/e his name is - he ran it in his board as did some other people. to merely mention and let us know that its good doesn't seem shady at all. im sure strong sad is at first a player, and doubt that he's doing this for the purpose of selling matrices - but that said, doesn't give a good impression by advocating a card (if you acquired in multiples) and then sell it :/
this was a pretty good read and I really like the deck very creative approach, only criticism I might add is that for as long as the article was a little background info on how others could participate might have been nice
There's nothing wrong with writing about a card or combo and then selling the card later on once the article has created some buzz. That being said, if he had something to do with almost no bots having any Curio's or Matrix's in stock (according to mtgo library), because he bought them all up and is now trying to flip them, that's shady.
"It's totally unfair that you're advocating something that you are selling! Totally not cool!!!"
Really? Promoting a good card that you are selling is shady now? Get over it. What's next, PureMTGO can't publish any article advocating a card as good, since they are selling those cards too? Realize how foolish that sounds.
If that is the part that's really bothering you, you can always *not buy from Todd*. Shocker, I know. This 'free market' system we have that doesn't force you to buy from a single vendor! It's a work of genius!
"It would seem to me that a mono-red deck would not have artifacts in it. Or was there some sort of percentage that the deck could have of non-red spells? I'm not trying to be mean or stupid here, just saying when people normally say "mono-x color" they mean ALL their non-land spells are that color."
@blau
I'd have to disagree ... I don't know anyone that would define mono colored decks that way.
Artifact is not a color ... the only color in his deck is red .. hence mono red
With regards to posting the same article at two different sites, I can see why people are upset. Since PureMTGO essentially pays people to write these articles, it does seem unfair to the other people who would like to write for PureMTGO and don't get their articles published, to watch as someone just phones in an article and gets paid for it.
I have read both articles and they are remarkably similar to each other, which has me thinking, if you can't write two different articles for two different sites, then don't write for two different sites. I would think the readers of STG feel just as cheated as the readers here. It also made me reflect on this same type of thing that happened, I think like five years ago. There was a writer who was writing for Brainburst (remember that site?) who was also writing for WOTC's site Magicthegathering.com. Well not once, but two weeks in a row he handed in the same article to both sites. WOTC promptly fired him as did Brainburst. Both sites stating that, since they paid for the article, technically, they had the rights to publish it. They felt cheated out of their money since they were getting non-exclusive content. I don't know how SCG does writer compensation, but I can see them being a little upset by this article showing up here. I would also think that PureMTGO's editor might have a response to this as well.
Gonna have to agree with JustSin. This article needed a heck of a lot more background info. You mentioned that the theme for the week was mono-red, but you were running all kinds of artifacts. It would seem to me that a mono-red deck would not have artifacts in it. Or was there some sort of percentage that the deck could have of non-red spells? I'm not trying to be mean or stupid here, just saying when people normally say "mono-x color" they mean ALL their non-land spells are that color. If I had participated, and built a deck using my definition of mono-red, I would have been pretty cheesed off when I saw you play SoFI.
I enjoyed reading this even though I am not a ptq player and never will be again. Damping Matrix? Not a huge surprise. Top 4 in Atlanta is no small accomplishment...Friends and I took a road trip down there just after Mirage and it was a beating even back then. Lots of good players down there.
Yeah usually you and I don't see eye to eye in these comments but yeah...you said it brother. "Wow. Haters. frown."
First of all, i don't really care much for any of the motives when people write an article, and neither should you guys.
What i do care about is the pointers given to people when the writers of these articles take countless hours to test stuff and come up with (or face) the hate cards as they go along.
I for one had not thought of celestial purge or damping matrix.
I could write a nice article about magoshi the waterveil and how it beats hivemind, but hey.. it wasn't my tech in the first place and i didn't hoard them yet :P
Be more considerate, considering the effort Todd has put into this article.
wow. haters. :(
The problem is, you only get a one turn break -- they hit you on their turn 1, you bounce it on your turn one, they replay it on their turn 2 and swing again on their turn 3, so the only turn they miss is the one where they replay it. As far as the other applications... spending 5 at sorcery speed to bounce one of your guys may be viable, but unless you're up around 8 mana you're not going to replay whatever you bounce that turn, and allies aside the CIP effects aren't that exciting to reuse in draft. Granted, you get a 3/3 body left behind that will hopefully be able to block, but even so, the 'tapped' requirement turns out to be a much bigger deal than I would have expected at first, and I'd put this as actively worse than Paradox Haze at this point.
... it's amazing that you turned in the same article for two sites. I could care less about the prospecting portion - feel free to use your pulpit any way you see fit, and your cachet is nowhere near large enough to really make this an insanely profitable venture.
The reason why, in fact, is that you do stuff like . . . turning in the same article for two different sites. Did you just "Save As..." and work out of the same Word window? We get it - Pridemage is good again. Maybe you can write an article for LSV saying it, too. Bant Charm? Where did I hear about that last? Oh yeah - 11pm Eastern, on SCG. From you.
Damping Matrix is not an effective solution. Many times you'll be staring at a 20/20 indestructible flying creature before you have a chance to cast it. Honestly I would rather have another copy of Echoing Truth or Chain of Vapor. I guess it's harder to horde those two cards and corner the market though...
this is laughable....wow mtgolibrary is out. They suck anyways. Traders still has 28 Damping Matrix in stock. I highly doubt todd is trying to undercut anyone here since common sense would be to buy out all the copies on the site that his damping matrix links too...
plus the card has sat bewteen .50 and 1 forever...its still not moving.
The card was also talked about on the mp3 from "Freed from the Real #49 - Worldwake-y eggs and bac-y". But you had to listen to the very end to hear it.
Why is business ethics now the theme of this comment-thread? Obviously the card is useful for stopping the Dark Depths combo and the Thopter Factory combo. It's not as if he's the only one playing Damping Matrix, and it's not like Damping Matrix is worth a ton anyway. It's a good card. The best way I can think of to thank Todd for the info would be to go buy a playset of Matrices from him.
buzz was already created on matrix from an earlier decklist by qazwsxedcrfvtg or w/e his name is - he ran it in his board as did some other people. to merely mention and let us know that its good doesn't seem shady at all. im sure strong sad is at first a player, and doubt that he's doing this for the purpose of selling matrices - but that said, doesn't give a good impression by advocating a card (if you acquired in multiples) and then sell it :/
this was a pretty good read and I really like the deck very creative approach, only criticism I might add is that for as long as the article was a little background info on how others could participate might have been nice
Yet let him pump and dump. He need the money after what happened at Worlds 2009 in Rome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq4rkdougYU
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There's nothing wrong with writing about a card or combo and then selling the card later on once the article has created some buzz. That being said, if he had something to do with almost no bots having any Curio's or Matrix's in stock (according to mtgo library), because he bought them all up and is now trying to flip them, that's shady.
"It's totally unfair that you're advocating something that you are selling! Totally not cool!!!"
Really? Promoting a good card that you are selling is shady now? Get over it. What's next, PureMTGO can't publish any article advocating a card as good, since they are selling those cards too? Realize how foolish that sounds.
If that is the part that's really bothering you, you can always *not buy from Todd*. Shocker, I know. This 'free market' system we have that doesn't force you to buy from a single vendor! It's a work of genius!
That does sound really shady.
how did I miss that one?? he's just what my tribal thopter deck needed!
I'd like some more info on this as well, I've not played EDH since V2. Sounds like its still good fun.
He did the same thing after his elf article with Cloudstone Curio.
With all of your tokens and weenies, you should try Helm of Possession.
Every time I see the art for Marshal's Anthem I laugh. It looks like some cheesy-pop concert or something. Yeah! Wooh!