I've consistently scored ENFP for a long time. That said, I probably play Magic to explore some of my "off personality traits. Just because I'm dominant as xxFP doesn't mean I don't have an xxTJ side that I want to exercise a bit.
Nothing official, but I will say that there are detailed mock ups of the UI pretty much everywhere to help get internal feedback. I can't go into what exactly, but it is still very in progress.
ESFJ was mine from this one which differs greatly from past results. I believe the fact that I scored 1 on the extrovert side was interesting. Not sure the weighting of that test was too accurate but anyway :) Fun stuff. (I scored heavily into the other categories.) Previously I believe I have scored as a INFP but that was equally offputting as this test as far as how I see myself.
I find my magic behavior is as follows: I play to win. On the other hand I like fun card interactions and card synergy. Even if my opponent is the one playing them. I enjoy the social aspects of playing but don't enjoy multiplayer probably because I think infinite combo engines are a corruption of the game and those seem to proliferate any multiplayer games I see online. (Offline my favorite format other than reject rares draft is 2headed giant with chinese menu sealed constructed rules, so I do enjoy SOME multiplayer formats.) They exist and I accept that they are useful as methods of winning but I prefer more interactive wins. (Tactics vs tactics, etc). Strangely I don't view counters and control in the same light. To me they are the essence of the interactive game. In fact the only time I object to what other people are playing is when it is an infinite engine. I can even enjoy those if they are quick enough to set up and run but most tend to take a huge amount of time for the "I Win Now" moment to occur. Not fun to me.
I also find discussing deckbuilding/theory to be fun but I need the hands on experience. If I can't put my ideas into practice I get frustrated.
As a sidenote, my impression of people who say "Just play! What's taking you so long" are not being tolerant or flexible. Impatient, yes. Rude, certainly. If they are only thinking it then they are not being very extroverted in their expression. I suspect, though, those behaviors are merely immaturity and not actual personality features.
I think the real problem with this type of typology is that it only covers aspects of one's personality and does not really give you an accurate picture of the person as a whole (any more than do the Zodiac signs.) I would love to see a more indepth look at who we are as players.
As you said you have had difficulty in understanding your fellow players and to some extent so have I. I pride myself on my skills in empathy and compassion but some people just seem to do things that are utterly incomprehensible to me. This doesn't make them or myself insane or wrong in any way. Just different.
I am sympathetic to tribulations and having lived a bit of an adventurous life (not in the good sense) I can certainly see that the events of a person's life help shape them in unexpected ways. How people play now vs how they played when the game was first introduced has also changed dramatically. (Due in no small part to the internet and proliferation of deck technology and metagame theory.) All these things would be interesting to explore.
Unfortunately this is a bit of a sensitive topic. You said it was painful to write, it was also somewhat painful to read. I hate being put in a box even if its just for fun like these online quizes are. Everyone is unique of course and that makes us as a group harder to understand. I think the bottom line to bring away from this is we all love the game. Anything else is just gravy.
RE the price lists, I am a little annoyed to see Chandra rising but not the foiled version from Jace vs Chandra. Personally I detest foils but it seems that they usually are worth more than their nonfoiled counterparts. Are the theme decks really that much more common than the rares in Lor?
Including that Tournament Data section is very nice. Much appreciated.
What I liked about the M-B test version you linked is that it tells you how "deep" you are in any characteristic. As I've historically been, I'm deep into the NT quadrant (rational) but the other two (Introvert vs Extrovert, Perceiving vs Judging) can vary based on the test setup or my mood at the moment. Strictly speaking I showed INTJ here but I was 1% J for example.
Based on your descriptions, I'd probably merge the 4 rationals somewhat. From ENTP I like variety and regularly vary decks (but don't care for gambling, no Texas Hold-Em for me, thanks). I do like to take the situation and figure it out (INTP) but once I have it 95% I'll move on rather than choke out the last bit of understanding. (A more lopsided pareto principle.)
Your INTJ explanation actually felt the least like me. I have no particular love for combo, though I don't mind it. It's just another piece to be figured out. And then ENTJ comes pretty close, since I do often take a leadership role (but more like an INTJ only if no one else does) and do like learning and gathering information.
By WotC psychographics I figure I'm 90% Spike, 10% Timmy. (A "variety Timmy", they say.) But my Spike success is probably limited for the reasons B-M would say, that I tend to drift toward what could or should be rather than what strictly is.
I definitely am a IFSP. As to why I play the game? While I do tend to avoid conflict in most situations I am highly competitive and while I don't force my opinions on others. I will share them vehemently when asked. I also scored highly on the "P" portion which I believe I do enjoy looking for every possible angle to win and will not concede until I'm facing lethal with absolutely no chance of an out. I do enjoy my space, that being said I play almost exclusively online and hardly converse other than the customary GL, GG. I do make an occasional paper event, but thats more or less to show I still have what it takes.
well apparently Im an ESFP and i play so im slightly offended hammy. Lol ok really i got the esfp and i dont know why that should be weird playing magic. I mean i do love the socializing aspect but i also love the game. Deckbuilding and suceeding is a great feeling. I think xxFP's are probably more likely to be johnnys. Also i dont want to brag too much but i was always top of my class and in honors courses etc...so i guess its a good brain exercise. Maybe im just weird..which i would certainly not argue.
I'm INFJ. That means:
Seek meaning and connection in ideas, relationships, and material possessions. Want to understand what motivates people and are insightful about others. Conscientious and committed to their firm values. Develop a clear vision about how best to serve the common good. Organized and decisive in implementing their vision.
And that once again means that I'm a Blue mage with some White involved in it. Every test, and I mean EVERY test, ends with the same result. Oh and yes, I'm a collector. I never denied that side of me but I'm not here just to collect. I'm also a competitor. I love the challange too. In fact, I'm writing this comment in the middle of a Daily Event.
Having met Erik - he is just a super-fantastic guy. And according to all his peers, a super-genius - which I can't disagree with the couple of times we've chatted. Which made me feel all the better when I managed to beat him in 100cs at the CCC <-- possibly the brightest spot of playing I had.
beautiful tournament data charts - even though i know most of that information already (since i'm an avid mtgo'er), it would be extremely helpful for those who are not so inclined. nice layout and information presented. now, only if you could include in the tournament data what deck i should be playing it'll make the prize section information relevant to me ;) cheers.
Thanks for the kind words everyone. Just to be totally clear - I'll still be writing for PureMTGO! Just not regularly every Thursday. Expect plenty more articles from me!
I don't think you would really need to rename them. They can still be "cracked" when used in booster drafts and sealed deck tournaments. If you really wanted clarity you could call them "Classic Tournament Boosters" to emphasize the point, but that hardly seems necessary. Not many players open packs outside of tournaments anyways.
hmmm i would have to talk to my friend who is running it, but yes you register as white. I said we should just register as shards...then you would just be bant, but alas it was not to be. We used the color restriction because we like adding a little more difficulty into deckbuilding. In fact i prefer any format that limits me in my card selection. As far as the coiling oracle issue, that was not my rule and i still disagree with it. I understand the concept of banning elves and goblins, they are horribly fast and spikish in a for fun league, but i dont think things like the oracle should be restricted.
I like the deck, and the zero creatures is actually in my opinion better since it negates about 30% of your normaal opponents deck. all there removal is worthless and i decided instead to use the sweepers with for the most part, take care of any issues. I looked at fiery fall though, i like dit some but was not sure yet about it in the sideboard. I may give it a spin.
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It's understandable though. The amount of wffort in each of you columns is staggering, and you've certainly raised the bar for all the casual deck writers on the site.
It's understandable though. The amount of wffort in each of you columns is staggering, and you've certainly raised the bar for all the casual deck writers on the site.
VERY good point on demand. I think Wizards saw a few years ago that MODO gives them the opportunity to profit from classic and casual formats in ways that they can’t do with paper cards: they can reopen revenue streams from properties that otherwise would go fallow. It’s like the double-dip a television network gets from selling TV shows on DVD. Healthy Classic/Casual formats are good for the players, dealers, and WotC’s bottom line, and WotC already seems keen on taking advantage of that market. Classic Packs would be a great way to push that part of the brand.
If the Classic Packs are uncrackable (which sounds like the best idea to me) they might have to called something other than “packs”. Maybe tokens or something. Of course, then along with tix you’d have multiple imaginary “legal tenders” on MODO, which would make the MODO economy that much more confusing. I guess with the right labeling/disclaimers of limited usage it would be fine.
I’m completely sold on this idea. Whoever the MODO brand manager is at Wizards, they need to get a proposal in their hands pronto.
I take the angel here. That way, the guy to your left takes machete, and the next guy takes either harrow or lynx, probably. So you've only really sent either the 2nd or 3rd guy down from you into considering white (personally, I don't like lynx enough to consider moving colours for it), which I don't think is the end of the world.
Great article as usual. I definitely do learn a lot from these.
Edit: what's with the spam filter constantly accusing me of spamming all of a sudden???
She beats for 3 a turn herself, and she makes other attackers or maybe even better, a blocker (almost) every turn.
Also there are almost no creatures at common or unc that can block a 3 power flier and live.
And being in white gives you access to Sanctifiers to combat the machete ;P.
The lynx isnt a strong enough signal to avoid the white, altho the pack is kinda weak.
Machete is obviously great, and can be played in every deck.
Trouble with the thing is you open yourself up to be tempoed out if your opponent has some cheap removal or a bounce spell.
I looked at that kedoria league, as (you may have noticed) I have trouble being free on saturday evening for the PRE. The rules seem a bit nuts though.. Am I correct in saying that if I wanted to play my traditional U/G snakes list, I'd have to register it as white, despite having no white cards or the ability to generate white mana? Also, I can't run coiling oracle, because as a snake ELF druid he's restricted?
Also, I've been running a very similar Valakut deck competitively, and doing very well with it. Fiery fall is a good sideboard option for killing baneslayers (as it also fixes mana!), which cause you massive problems if they manage to gain even 5 life, as I often end up running out of mountains?. I also like bogardan hellkite at the top of the "curve". I wholeheartedly reccomend elvish visionary and borderland ranger, as they basically act as cantripping mini-fogs in this deck, which is super-useful given it's speed. Noting that you're creatureless before sideboarding, might I reccomend a platinum angel or two in the sideboard? I had a guy refuse to speak to me for the rest of the evening after dropping him!
I've consistently scored ENFP for a long time. That said, I probably play Magic to explore some of my "off personality traits. Just because I'm dominant as xxFP doesn't mean I don't have an xxTJ side that I want to exercise a bit.
Nothing official, but I will say that there are detailed mock ups of the UI pretty much everywhere to help get internal feedback. I can't go into what exactly, but it is still very in progress.
ESFJ was mine from this one which differs greatly from past results. I believe the fact that I scored 1 on the extrovert side was interesting. Not sure the weighting of that test was too accurate but anyway :) Fun stuff. (I scored heavily into the other categories.) Previously I believe I have scored as a INFP but that was equally offputting as this test as far as how I see myself.
I find my magic behavior is as follows: I play to win. On the other hand I like fun card interactions and card synergy. Even if my opponent is the one playing them. I enjoy the social aspects of playing but don't enjoy multiplayer probably because I think infinite combo engines are a corruption of the game and those seem to proliferate any multiplayer games I see online. (Offline my favorite format other than reject rares draft is 2headed giant with chinese menu sealed constructed rules, so I do enjoy SOME multiplayer formats.) They exist and I accept that they are useful as methods of winning but I prefer more interactive wins. (Tactics vs tactics, etc). Strangely I don't view counters and control in the same light. To me they are the essence of the interactive game. In fact the only time I object to what other people are playing is when it is an infinite engine. I can even enjoy those if they are quick enough to set up and run but most tend to take a huge amount of time for the "I Win Now" moment to occur. Not fun to me.
I also find discussing deckbuilding/theory to be fun but I need the hands on experience. If I can't put my ideas into practice I get frustrated.
As a sidenote, my impression of people who say "Just play! What's taking you so long" are not being tolerant or flexible. Impatient, yes. Rude, certainly. If they are only thinking it then they are not being very extroverted in their expression. I suspect, though, those behaviors are merely immaturity and not actual personality features.
I think the real problem with this type of typology is that it only covers aspects of one's personality and does not really give you an accurate picture of the person as a whole (any more than do the Zodiac signs.) I would love to see a more indepth look at who we are as players.
As you said you have had difficulty in understanding your fellow players and to some extent so have I. I pride myself on my skills in empathy and compassion but some people just seem to do things that are utterly incomprehensible to me. This doesn't make them or myself insane or wrong in any way. Just different.
I am sympathetic to tribulations and having lived a bit of an adventurous life (not in the good sense) I can certainly see that the events of a person's life help shape them in unexpected ways. How people play now vs how they played when the game was first introduced has also changed dramatically. (Due in no small part to the internet and proliferation of deck technology and metagame theory.) All these things would be interesting to explore.
Unfortunately this is a bit of a sensitive topic. You said it was painful to write, it was also somewhat painful to read. I hate being put in a box even if its just for fun like these online quizes are. Everyone is unique of course and that makes us as a group harder to understand. I think the bottom line to bring away from this is we all love the game. Anything else is just gravy.
RE the price lists, I am a little annoyed to see Chandra rising but not the foiled version from Jace vs Chandra. Personally I detest foils but it seems that they usually are worth more than their nonfoiled counterparts. Are the theme decks really that much more common than the rares in Lor?
I'm a Johnny-Spike INTJ. I only have fun if I'm winning, but I need to win on my terms.
Including that Tournament Data section is very nice. Much appreciated.
What I liked about the M-B test version you linked is that it tells you how "deep" you are in any characteristic. As I've historically been, I'm deep into the NT quadrant (rational) but the other two (Introvert vs Extrovert, Perceiving vs Judging) can vary based on the test setup or my mood at the moment. Strictly speaking I showed INTJ here but I was 1% J for example.
Based on your descriptions, I'd probably merge the 4 rationals somewhat. From ENTP I like variety and regularly vary decks (but don't care for gambling, no Texas Hold-Em for me, thanks). I do like to take the situation and figure it out (INTP) but once I have it 95% I'll move on rather than choke out the last bit of understanding. (A more lopsided pareto principle.)
Your INTJ explanation actually felt the least like me. I have no particular love for combo, though I don't mind it. It's just another piece to be figured out. And then ENTJ comes pretty close, since I do often take a leadership role (but more like an INTJ only if no one else does) and do like learning and gathering information.
By WotC psychographics I figure I'm 90% Spike, 10% Timmy. (A "variety Timmy", they say.) But my Spike success is probably limited for the reasons B-M would say, that I tend to drift toward what could or should be rather than what strictly is.
Any news on V3.5?
I definitely am a IFSP. As to why I play the game? While I do tend to avoid conflict in most situations I am highly competitive and while I don't force my opinions on others. I will share them vehemently when asked. I also scored highly on the "P" portion which I believe I do enjoy looking for every possible angle to win and will not concede until I'm facing lethal with absolutely no chance of an out. I do enjoy my space, that being said I play almost exclusively online and hardly converse other than the customary GL, GG. I do make an occasional paper event, but thats more or less to show I still have what it takes.
well apparently Im an ESFP and i play so im slightly offended hammy. Lol ok really i got the esfp and i dont know why that should be weird playing magic. I mean i do love the socializing aspect but i also love the game. Deckbuilding and suceeding is a great feeling. I think xxFP's are probably more likely to be johnnys. Also i dont want to brag too much but i was always top of my class and in honors courses etc...so i guess its a good brain exercise. Maybe im just weird..which i would certainly not argue.
I'm INFJ. That means:
Seek meaning and connection in ideas, relationships, and material possessions. Want to understand what motivates people and are insightful about others. Conscientious and committed to their firm values. Develop a clear vision about how best to serve the common good. Organized and decisive in implementing their vision.
And that once again means that I'm a Blue mage with some White involved in it. Every test, and I mean EVERY test, ends with the same result. Oh and yes, I'm a collector. I never denied that side of me but I'm not here just to collect. I'm also a competitor. I love the challange too. In fact, I'm writing this comment in the middle of a Daily Event.
Loved the event charts!
LE
also slight correction weekend PE are 6 tix + deck, not 10 tix as stated.
Nice article Hammy
Having met Erik - he is just a super-fantastic guy. And according to all his peers, a super-genius - which I can't disagree with the couple of times we've chatted. Which made me feel all the better when I managed to beat him in 100cs at the CCC <-- possibly the brightest spot of playing I had.
beautiful tournament data charts - even though i know most of that information already (since i'm an avid mtgo'er), it would be extremely helpful for those who are not so inclined. nice layout and information presented. now, only if you could include in the tournament data what deck i should be playing it'll make the prize section information relevant to me ;) cheers.
Thanks for the kind words everyone. Just to be totally clear - I'll still be writing for PureMTGO! Just not regularly every Thursday. Expect plenty more articles from me!
im an istj and i couldnt deal with reading 80% of this post!
love your article, look forward to it every friday
im an istj and i couldnt deal with reading 80% of this post!
love your article, look forward to it every friday
I don't think you would really need to rename them. They can still be "cracked" when used in booster drafts and sealed deck tournaments. If you really wanted clarity you could call them "Classic Tournament Boosters" to emphasize the point, but that hardly seems necessary. Not many players open packs outside of tournaments anyways.
hmmm i would have to talk to my friend who is running it, but yes you register as white. I said we should just register as shards...then you would just be bant, but alas it was not to be. We used the color restriction because we like adding a little more difficulty into deckbuilding. In fact i prefer any format that limits me in my card selection. As far as the coiling oracle issue, that was not my rule and i still disagree with it. I understand the concept of banning elves and goblins, they are horribly fast and spikish in a for fun league, but i dont think things like the oracle should be restricted.
I like the deck, and the zero creatures is actually in my opinion better since it negates about 30% of your normaal opponents deck. all there removal is worthless and i decided instead to use the sweepers with for the most part, take care of any issues. I looked at fiery fall though, i like dit some but was not sure yet about it in the sideboard. I may give it a spin.
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I've always like Final Judgement for a casual WOG w/ cool art. Works well against Persist too.
Isn't withering wisps an uncommon, therefore not playable in pauper, and hence not really a replacement for crypt rats?
Edit: What is with this infernal spam filter all of a sudden??
Bummer to hear about the workload issues! :(
It's understandable though. The amount of wffort in each of you columns is staggering, and you've certainly raised the bar for all the casual deck writers on the site.
Take care of life first!
Bummer to hear about the workload issues! :(
It's understandable though. The amount of wffort in each of you columns is staggering, and you've certainly raised the bar for all the casual deck writers on the site.
Take care of life first!
VERY good point on demand. I think Wizards saw a few years ago that MODO gives them the opportunity to profit from classic and casual formats in ways that they can’t do with paper cards: they can reopen revenue streams from properties that otherwise would go fallow. It’s like the double-dip a television network gets from selling TV shows on DVD. Healthy Classic/Casual formats are good for the players, dealers, and WotC’s bottom line, and WotC already seems keen on taking advantage of that market. Classic Packs would be a great way to push that part of the brand.
If the Classic Packs are uncrackable (which sounds like the best idea to me) they might have to called something other than “packs”. Maybe tokens or something. Of course, then along with tix you’d have multiple imaginary “legal tenders” on MODO, which would make the MODO economy that much more confusing. I guess with the right labeling/disclaimers of limited usage it would be fine.
I’m completely sold on this idea. Whoever the MODO brand manager is at Wizards, they need to get a proposal in their hands pronto.
I take the angel here. That way, the guy to your left takes machete, and the next guy takes either harrow or lynx, probably. So you've only really sent either the 2nd or 3rd guy down from you into considering white (personally, I don't like lynx enough to consider moving colours for it), which I don't think is the end of the world.
Great article as usual. I definitely do learn a lot from these.
Edit: what's with the spam filter constantly accusing me of spamming all of a sudden???
Machete is great.
Angel is a BOMB.
She beats for 3 a turn herself, and she makes other attackers or maybe even better, a blocker (almost) every turn.
Also there are almost no creatures at common or unc that can block a 3 power flier and live.
And being in white gives you access to Sanctifiers to combat the machete ;P.
The lynx isnt a strong enough signal to avoid the white, altho the pack is kinda weak.
Machete is obviously great, and can be played in every deck.
Trouble with the thing is you open yourself up to be tempoed out if your opponent has some cheap removal or a bounce spell.
The long and short of it:
ANGEL --> No Brainer
I looked at that kedoria league, as (you may have noticed) I have trouble being free on saturday evening for the PRE. The rules seem a bit nuts though.. Am I correct in saying that if I wanted to play my traditional U/G snakes list, I'd have to register it as white, despite having no white cards or the ability to generate white mana? Also, I can't run coiling oracle, because as a snake ELF druid he's restricted?
Also, I've been running a very similar Valakut deck competitively, and doing very well with it. Fiery fall is a good sideboard option for killing baneslayers (as it also fixes mana!), which cause you massive problems if they manage to gain even 5 life, as I often end up running out of mountains?. I also like bogardan hellkite at the top of the "curve". I wholeheartedly reccomend elvish visionary and borderland ranger, as they basically act as cantripping mini-fogs in this deck, which is super-useful given it's speed. Noting that you're creatureless before sideboarding, might I reccomend a platinum angel or two in the sideboard? I had a guy refuse to speak to me for the rest of the evening after dropping him!