The release schedule say Urza's Saga is coming in two weeks, but I have not seen anything about the beta, prerelease events, no hype, no writeups - nothing.
Sorry if my comment about trolling was taken seriously, I was trying to add some levity to this discussion. Also Leicht not leict thanks for trying though. :)
As for whether or not counters/combos are or not appropriate for casual play (to beat a dead horse even further into the ground) isn't that up to the individual players? If so then who are you or anyone else to declare it unfun for everyone? I totally agree that it can be unfun to play against such cards/decks but casual means nothing is on the line, so quit or quit and block if it really bothers you.
As a tribal wars player I see a lot canned decks (Slivers, Treefolk, Elves, Goblins, etc) and when I do I sometimes cringe a little. Not because my jank decks can't win against tried and true strategies. (Sometimes they do, sometimes not so much.) But because they are so prevalent I know THEIR decks better than they do. It is really a waste of time to see turn 1 sentinal turn 2 birchlore, some other elf, then 3 more elves, turn 3 overrun or the like. Yet it is NOT my place to tell people not to bring such decks. Occasionally I do comment. But that is as far as it should go.
I truly believe this "topic" has wound upon itself and is eating its own tail. As for the mockery and insults of others, I can't speak to that except that I can see where people would be getting heated on both sides of the issue, and the speech of the first poster seemed to me to be fairly inflammatory in it's criticism. Perhaps it isn't possible to have reasonable discussions about unreasonable subjects in a public forum.
Biggest con regarding MTGO. The actual game itself. It looks like it was designed in 1996. No native mac client. Packs of cards cost MORE than my store. Overemphasis on drafting...
I like it for the card organizing aspects. Only needing to ever own one play set of something is nice. Card organizing is nice.
Decklists... suck. Save it as a local file, unless you want to save it as a local text file...but if it's not a local text file.. then you can't use it for games where you are challenged but when you challenge people...
The glitching and crashing...
I have played both quite a bit now. The things that a computerized MTG should be good at it only is really good at a few of those. Keeping cards organized and finding games as fast as possible.
It utterly fails in terms of design and layout. It utterly fails in price delivery (way to expensive per pack) and before people start screaming at me about the redemption policy... do you know that it is very hard to find a super clear definition of the redemption policy? i need to get a complete set apparently in order to redeem cards. I don't need to do that at the card shop.
I am not going pro. I think drafting is actually boring and a waste of money. This is a very fun hobby for me. It's a fun hobby for me because I have fun joking around with people in real life while I am playing games. randoma$$hat17 is not filling that need for me when he types ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ because I took 20 seconds longer than him to make a choice.
Good at organizing cards. okay at finding a game whenever you want... aside from that. Needs very serious work before it gets much more of my money.
Biggest con regarding MTGO. The actual game itself. It looks like it was designed in 1996. No native mac client. Packs of cards cost MORE than my store. Overemphasis on drafting...
I like it for the card organizing aspects. Only needing to ever own one play set of something is nice. Card organizing is nice.
Decklists... suck. Save it as a local file, unless you want to save it as a local text file...but if it's not a local text file.. then you can't use it for games where you are challenged but when you challenge people...
The glitching and crashing...
I have played both quite a bit now. The things that a computerized MTG should be good at it only is really good at a few of those. Keeping cards organized and finding games as fast as possible.
It utterly fails in terms of design and layout. It utterly fails in price delivery (way to expensive per pack) and before people start screaming at me about the redemption policy... do you know that it is very hard to find a super clear definition of the redemption policy? i need to get a complete set apparently in order to redeem cards. I don't need to do that at the card shop.
I am not going pro. I think drafting is actually boring and a waste of money. This is a very fun hobby for me. It's a fun hobby for me because I have fun joking around with people in real life while I am playing games. randoma$$hat17 is not filling that need for me when he types ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ because I took 20 seconds longer than him to make a choice.
Good at organizing cards. okay at finding a game whenever you want... aside from that. Needs very serious work before it gets much more of my money.
I was a little sad that the announcement happened so soon. I was expecting more time to buy Legacy staples. I already own all the dual lands, thankfully, but there was still more for me to buy. Like FoW. Is that going to go higher?
it seems to me that on every set release and every change big or small in the game everyone is crying that it's the end of magic as we know it no matter the outcome... if Legacy takes off its bad for magic... if Legacy fails its bad for magic... doesn't anyone else see this as a little ridiculous?
on a side note I think it'll be interesting to see the evolution of online Legacy because it's one thing for it to be released now, but you look at the top decks and theres a lot of them that are missing cards because we dont have Urza or MM and those aren't going to come all at once so little by little decks will have to pick up the pieces to make themselves whole again
I really think Shard should not do that. I have players do that to me when I express my opinions all the time. We believe in free speech and that includes opinions you do not support.
I'm not denying that I pushed the definition of casual to the limit with the use of counterbalance, but two things... first I don't feel the use of counterbalance should be banned just because its casual... why should a card be banned from play just because it has been abused in tournament decks, not that it is in the current deck, but because of the potential... second what I was trying to do here is show off the power of blue enchantments and I wanted to fill a deck with enchantments that would get people to understand what blue offers from all angles.. yes again I pushed the limit of people's patience and perhaps I shouldn't have, but my other choice was to bring this deck into the tournament room and get crushed by oath/storm/zoo/etc and then its not worth it
In the casual room my answer to affinity was turn 3 or 4 blazing archon. I play reanimator decks, like affinity, I also dont make many friends in the casual room.
Well, I have played against Pauper affinity before and it's just not fun. Drop a couple land and you don't have to pay for anything. How is that not broken? It's highly unlikely that someone hAs the answers for all those artifacts in pauper.
The set is very flavor based, and he is the main character. The ability is strong in a void, but there is literally tons of ways to dump illusion counters on things, as the primary set keyword interacts with them. I'll probably give a bit of introduction to each character from now on, along with a bit of thought process.
re: The frame, I absolutely detest gold frames. Hence the wacky hybrid frame. It does look weird though.
re: The symbol, I just suck with the image maker. It's supposed to be crossed spears.
I agree with Flippers, when I do venture into the casual room, it is usually to mess around with cards that don't see much play out of my binder. This still goes back to the horse beaten what is casual debate though. Will people concede because I played remand? The answer is yes, not because its tourney level anymore, but because way back when it was in a certain successful dragonstorm deck.
Heck I even hate playing against CB/Top in tournaments, let alone casual.
Should he be playing counterbalance in casual.....probably not
Will he draw concessions.......most def
Should he care.......not really
What should he do then? Move onto the next game and hope your opponent has some sense of what the entire game is about. If you can live with the concedes, then I say go on with your bad self!
The release schedule say Urza's Saga is coming in two weeks, but I have not seen anything about the beta, prerelease events, no hype, no writeups - nothing.
Is it still on? Did I miss something?
Anybody know why comet storm and rampaging baloths are rising?
Has somebody won something with valakut?
http://puremtgo.com/sites/default/files/u530/2010_03_11_?ther_vial_dst.png
could not be found.
probably is:
http://puremtgo.com/sites/default/files/u530/2010_03_11_aether_vial_dst.png
also here is the real url for death's shadow.
http://puremtgo.com/sites/default/files/u530/2010_03_11_deaths_shadow_ww...
Sorry if my comment about trolling was taken seriously, I was trying to add some levity to this discussion. Also Leicht not leict thanks for trying though. :)
As for whether or not counters/combos are or not appropriate for casual play (to beat a dead horse even further into the ground) isn't that up to the individual players? If so then who are you or anyone else to declare it unfun for everyone? I totally agree that it can be unfun to play against such cards/decks but casual means nothing is on the line, so quit or quit and block if it really bothers you.
As a tribal wars player I see a lot canned decks (Slivers, Treefolk, Elves, Goblins, etc) and when I do I sometimes cringe a little. Not because my jank decks can't win against tried and true strategies. (Sometimes they do, sometimes not so much.) But because they are so prevalent I know THEIR decks better than they do. It is really a waste of time to see turn 1 sentinal turn 2 birchlore, some other elf, then 3 more elves, turn 3 overrun or the like. Yet it is NOT my place to tell people not to bring such decks. Occasionally I do comment. But that is as far as it should go.
I truly believe this "topic" has wound upon itself and is eating its own tail. As for the mockery and insults of others, I can't speak to that except that I can see where people would be getting heated on both sides of the issue, and the speech of the first poster seemed to me to be fairly inflammatory in it's criticism. Perhaps it isn't possible to have reasonable discussions about unreasonable subjects in a public forum.
Solace not solice.
Dual land not duel land.
C'mon Mr proper journalist ;-)
That's on me. I changed that while I was editing this morning, and someone the site ate my edits with a 504 timeout that we looking at.
I have no idea what a 504 timeout means though :/
Biggest con regarding MTGO. The actual game itself. It looks like it was designed in 1996. No native mac client. Packs of cards cost MORE than my store. Overemphasis on drafting...
I like it for the card organizing aspects. Only needing to ever own one play set of something is nice. Card organizing is nice.
Decklists... suck. Save it as a local file, unless you want to save it as a local text file...but if it's not a local text file.. then you can't use it for games where you are challenged but when you challenge people...
The glitching and crashing...
I have played both quite a bit now. The things that a computerized MTG should be good at it only is really good at a few of those. Keeping cards organized and finding games as fast as possible.
It utterly fails in terms of design and layout. It utterly fails in price delivery (way to expensive per pack) and before people start screaming at me about the redemption policy... do you know that it is very hard to find a super clear definition of the redemption policy? i need to get a complete set apparently in order to redeem cards. I don't need to do that at the card shop.
I am not going pro. I think drafting is actually boring and a waste of money. This is a very fun hobby for me. It's a fun hobby for me because I have fun joking around with people in real life while I am playing games. randoma$$hat17 is not filling that need for me when he types ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ because I took 20 seconds longer than him to make a choice.
Good at organizing cards. okay at finding a game whenever you want... aside from that. Needs very serious work before it gets much more of my money.
Biggest con regarding MTGO. The actual game itself. It looks like it was designed in 1996. No native mac client. Packs of cards cost MORE than my store. Overemphasis on drafting...
I like it for the card organizing aspects. Only needing to ever own one play set of something is nice. Card organizing is nice.
Decklists... suck. Save it as a local file, unless you want to save it as a local text file...but if it's not a local text file.. then you can't use it for games where you are challenged but when you challenge people...
The glitching and crashing...
I have played both quite a bit now. The things that a computerized MTG should be good at it only is really good at a few of those. Keeping cards organized and finding games as fast as possible.
It utterly fails in terms of design and layout. It utterly fails in price delivery (way to expensive per pack) and before people start screaming at me about the redemption policy... do you know that it is very hard to find a super clear definition of the redemption policy? i need to get a complete set apparently in order to redeem cards. I don't need to do that at the card shop.
I am not going pro. I think drafting is actually boring and a waste of money. This is a very fun hobby for me. It's a fun hobby for me because I have fun joking around with people in real life while I am playing games. randoma$$hat17 is not filling that need for me when he types ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ because I took 20 seconds longer than him to make a choice.
Good at organizing cards. okay at finding a game whenever you want... aside from that. Needs very serious work before it gets much more of my money.
I was a little sad that the announcement happened so soon. I was expecting more time to buy Legacy staples. I already own all the dual lands, thankfully, but there was still more for me to buy. Like FoW. Is that going to go higher?
it seems to me that on every set release and every change big or small in the game everyone is crying that it's the end of magic as we know it no matter the outcome... if Legacy takes off its bad for magic... if Legacy fails its bad for magic... doesn't anyone else see this as a little ridiculous?
on a side note I think it'll be interesting to see the evolution of online Legacy because it's one thing for it to be released now, but you look at the top decks and theres a lot of them that are missing cards because we dont have Urza or MM and those aren't going to come all at once so little by little decks will have to pick up the pieces to make themselves whole again
Great article as always, thanks for the price updates. Sylvan Library went up so much that it's listed twice! :)
Hard to believe Sylvan Library was ever 2.5, it's such a powerhouse in Legacy.
um to what are you refering?
You didn't like it when the guy quit when you destroyed his mana base? >.>
The Xira Aren commander deck has a Yayimaya Elder and a Sakura-Tribe Elder. The Rubina deck has a Rhysic study and some other good stuff.
I really think Shard should not do that. I have players do that to me when I express my opinions all the time. We believe in free speech and that includes opinions you do not support.
I'm not denying that I pushed the definition of casual to the limit with the use of counterbalance, but two things... first I don't feel the use of counterbalance should be banned just because its casual... why should a card be banned from play just because it has been abused in tournament decks, not that it is in the current deck, but because of the potential... second what I was trying to do here is show off the power of blue enchantments and I wanted to fill a deck with enchantments that would get people to understand what blue offers from all angles.. yes again I pushed the limit of people's patience and perhaps I shouldn't have, but my other choice was to bring this deck into the tournament room and get crushed by oath/storm/zoo/etc and then its not worth it
Dust to Dust.
In the casual room my answer to affinity was turn 3 or 4 blazing archon. I play reanimator decks, like affinity, I also dont make many friends in the casual room.
Well, I have played against Pauper affinity before and it's just not fun. Drop a couple land and you don't have to pay for anything. How is that not broken? It's highly unlikely that someone hAs the answers for all those artifacts in pauper.
I'm not sure. The ability should be static, but I'm not sure how to word that.
The reason there were no game reports was this article was written before the PRE, the next will contain the game reports.
*facepalm*
So it is.
The set is very flavor based, and he is the main character. The ability is strong in a void, but there is literally tons of ways to dump illusion counters on things, as the primary set keyword interacts with them. I'll probably give a bit of introduction to each character from now on, along with a bit of thought process.
re: The frame, I absolutely detest gold frames. Hence the wacky hybrid frame. It does look weird though.
re: The symbol, I just suck with the image maker. It's supposed to be crossed spears.
Ha. Well, you should of seen my face when my lethal goblins hit a moat. Priceless
Not elves. Druids.
I agree with Flippers, when I do venture into the casual room, it is usually to mess around with cards that don't see much play out of my binder. This still goes back to the horse beaten what is casual debate though. Will people concede because I played remand? The answer is yes, not because its tourney level anymore, but because way back when it was in a certain successful dragonstorm deck.
Heck I even hate playing against CB/Top in tournaments, let alone casual.
Should he be playing counterbalance in casual.....probably not
Will he draw concessions.......most def
Should he care.......not really
What should he do then? Move onto the next game and hope your opponent has some sense of what the entire game is about. If you can live with the concedes, then I say go on with your bad self!