EDH are alot more restricted than commander. Commander lets you run stuff with other colors mana symbols in the text box, EDH does not. E.g. you can run a swamp in Commander if you are playing Mangara, yet you could not in EDH (this is only really important with bounce-lands from my pow).
But even if you had a card without mana symbols, in EDH, which could genearte other colors (fx. Birds of Paradise in monogreen) you would only be able to tap for the colors of your commander (which would be green in monogreen). This matches commanders version.
So to recap: No Blink in EDH if you are monowhite (there is a blue mana symbol on the card) but you can play it in Commander (the flashback is kind of hard though).
On a side note I won the last chaos commander tournement with Hazezon Tamar as commander... I never got around to play him though :/
Why use Expedition Map in a deck using only plains?
You are paying 3 mana to thin your deck?
At least run some Kabira Crossroads ( synergy with the deck as well) of a single Emeria, the Sky Ruin.
Or Kor Cartographer for acceleration.
And how about Sigiled Paladin?
Flying on the pegasus is nice, but Paladin is almost White Knight 5 to 8 and is sometimes even better.
It's a Mythic with a win condition and a casual card that people like to play....not all the prices are dictated by the current STD flavour of the week.
If the card sells at $2 then why sell it cheaper?
Nice Mono White deck for the price Flip and another good read M8
i like the idea behind mangara, but in your article you said you could play the flashback which i think is untrue. It's been a little bit since i plaed but i think you can only generate mana that is the color of your general. Anything else even the blue mana from say Azorius Signet is treated as colorless
Re: momentary blink in a white-general deck:
I thought you'd be allowed to run sources of blue mana, but they'd only generate colourless? Who knows. There are so many different sources of the "official" EDH rules that pretty much everybody I've met plays different ones.
That cat deck looks like a blast. Sort of a naya stompy. :D I can't say I love Felidar Sovereign and whats with the high price tag for that card? It isn't a competitive rare yet it rates $2 each by itself? :/ I guess there is some secret tech deck out there that will win with big fliers that give you the game with excessive life gain? Just a guess. It could be a variation your deck and wouldn't that upset the average Jund player? :D
Hmmm I convinced a friend to join me in a FFA Commander game. She ran monogreen with Molimo, Maro-Sorceror and I ran monowhite with Mangara, our other opponents were Five color Child of Alara and Black Red Kaervek the Merciless. Needless to say the 3 of us ganged up on Kaervek and I even had a funny moment where he read the flavor text to us and I reminded him my general was the quoted. Kaervek took out Child and then lost to a combined attack by me and Molimo. Then I flew over with my angels and killed her being the treacherous general that I am.
It was a fun game and despite that I managed to win. Mangara is indeed fairly powerful with all the various potential ways to break her. I did not get any of those ways out but I did manage to shut down my opponents since monowhite has just about everything needed for that function (removal, mass removal, prisons etc). I am amidst thinking about other potential commanders and decks to build around them. Thanks for the food for thought.
* Eldrazi is a creature type that, as of the _Worldwake_ release, has not yet been printed on any creatures.
* Currently, only Mistform Ultimus and creatures with changeling are Eldrazi. If they become colorless, possibly due to Mycosynth Lattice, Eye of Ugin would reduce the cost to cast them by {2}.
* Eye of Ugin's second ability lets you find any colorless creature card in your deck, such as an artifact creature card that has no colored mana symbols in its mana cost, or a creature card that's become colorless due to Mycosynth Lattice.
Nice recap. Your right the draft was on the weak side but you can't really complain when you get magma spray with a mid pick. I am 100% behind your philosophy of playing RGx or UBx. For anyone that wants to get into this block format that maybe doesn't have as much experience I'm working on a limited guide that covers every card in the format. It will be featured on mtgoacademy.com so look out for it.
The official WWK FAQ says that Eldrazi is a creature type. It also says that Mistform Ultimus will get the discount if there is a Mycosynth Lattice in play.
Actually, it probably would have been more proper for WotC to keep their scheduled Sealed Event in place the week before and the 6 foil boosters I accumulated, solely for that purpose, would have been used in exactly one event as planned.
I NEVER play in multiple events but in this situation it was the best return on my very significant investment in acquiring the 6 foil boosters. As it turned out, it was far more lucrative for me given what transpired but I assure you that given the choice between the 1 sealed event or 2 draft events (concurrent or otherwise) I would always choose the sealed because I wanted to maximize the amount of time I got to enjoy the unique experience of playing with all foils in limited and due to my lack of knowledge in drafting this format. I could have just as easily have gone 0-2 in the two premier events and been utterly disappointed.
There are a bunch of decks that use Bloodchief Ascension, Isochron Scepter, Countryside Crusher and a number of other cheap efficient cards in order to deal a lot of quick damage to activate the Ascension and removal Countryside blockers.
Here are the tournament numbers and players for the decks I called Isochron Giant. I'm not sure what the deck's pilots actually call the deck.
to give a quick example
4-3-2-2 que would be 4-3-2-2 for each player on the team or u could think of it as 8-6-4-4 and then players split it. Hope that helps some :)
i agree here. Four Kabira Crossroads does seem good. though i am wondering on the map as well.
EDH are alot more restricted than commander. Commander lets you run stuff with other colors mana symbols in the text box, EDH does not. E.g. you can run a swamp in Commander if you are playing Mangara, yet you could not in EDH (this is only really important with bounce-lands from my pow).
But even if you had a card without mana symbols, in EDH, which could genearte other colors (fx. Birds of Paradise in monogreen) you would only be able to tap for the colors of your commander (which would be green in monogreen). This matches commanders version.
So to recap: No Blink in EDH if you are monowhite (there is a blue mana symbol on the card) but you can play it in Commander (the flashback is kind of hard though).
On a side note I won the last chaos commander tournement with Hazezon Tamar as commander... I never got around to play him though :/
Treasure Hunt + Spiraling Embers = nice combo kill possibly.
Nice article,
Why use Expedition Map in a deck using only plains?
You are paying 3 mana to thin your deck?
At least run some Kabira Crossroads ( synergy with the deck as well) of a single Emeria, the Sky Ruin.
Or Kor Cartographer for acceleration.
And how about Sigiled Paladin?
Flying on the pegasus is nice, but Paladin is almost White Knight 5 to 8 and is sometimes even better.
It's a Mythic with a win condition and a casual card that people like to play....not all the prices are dictated by the current STD flavour of the week.
If the card sells at $2 then why sell it cheaper?
Nice Mono White deck for the price Flip and another good read M8
most mythics are like at least $3 just because they're mythics
nice article, was lookin forward to seeing what you'd do with this one
I think the difference is that EDH gives you colored mana while Commander does not.
i like the idea behind mangara, but in your article you said you could play the flashback which i think is untrue. It's been a little bit since i plaed but i think you can only generate mana that is the color of your general. Anything else even the blue mana from say Azorius Signet is treated as colorless
Re: momentary blink in a white-general deck:
I thought you'd be allowed to run sources of blue mana, but they'd only generate colourless? Who knows. There are so many different sources of the "official" EDH rules that pretty much everybody I've met plays different ones.
its a mythic thats about the only reason ill bet
That cat deck looks like a blast. Sort of a naya stompy. :D I can't say I love Felidar Sovereign and whats with the high price tag for that card? It isn't a competitive rare yet it rates $2 each by itself? :/ I guess there is some secret tech deck out there that will win with big fliers that give you the game with excessive life gain? Just a guess. It could be a variation your deck and wouldn't that upset the average Jund player? :D
Hmmm I convinced a friend to join me in a FFA Commander game. She ran monogreen with Molimo, Maro-Sorceror and I ran monowhite with Mangara, our other opponents were Five color Child of Alara and Black Red Kaervek the Merciless. Needless to say the 3 of us ganged up on Kaervek and I even had a funny moment where he read the flavor text to us and I reminded him my general was the quoted. Kaervek took out Child and then lost to a combined attack by me and Molimo. Then I flew over with my angels and killed her being the treacherous general that I am.
It was a fun game and despite that I managed to win. Mangara is indeed fairly powerful with all the various potential ways to break her. I did not get any of those ways out but I did manage to shut down my opponents since monowhite has just about everything needed for that function (removal, mass removal, prisons etc). I am amidst thinking about other potential commanders and decks to build around them. Thanks for the food for thought.
From the Worldwake FAQ :
* Eye of Ugin doesn't have a mana ability.
* Eldrazi is a creature type that, as of the _Worldwake_ release, has not yet been printed on any creatures.
* Currently, only Mistform Ultimus and creatures with changeling are Eldrazi. If they become colorless, possibly due to Mycosynth Lattice, Eye of Ugin would reduce the cost to cast them by {2}.
* Eye of Ugin's second ability lets you find any colorless creature card in your deck, such as an artifact creature card that has no colored mana symbols in its mana cost, or a creature card that's become colorless due to Mycosynth Lattice.
Nice recap. Your right the draft was on the weak side but you can't really complain when you get magma spray with a mid pick. I am 100% behind your philosophy of playing RGx or UBx. For anyone that wants to get into this block format that maybe doesn't have as much experience I'm working on a limited guide that covers every card in the format. It will be featured on mtgoacademy.com so look out for it.
The official WWK FAQ says that Eldrazi is a creature type. It also says that Mistform Ultimus will get the discount if there is a Mycosynth Lattice in play.
Not a supertype.
Actually, it probably would have been more proper for WotC to keep their scheduled Sealed Event in place the week before and the 6 foil boosters I accumulated, solely for that purpose, would have been used in exactly one event as planned.
I NEVER play in multiple events but in this situation it was the best return on my very significant investment in acquiring the 6 foil boosters. As it turned out, it was far more lucrative for me given what transpired but I assure you that given the choice between the 1 sealed event or 2 draft events (concurrent or otherwise) I would always choose the sealed because I wanted to maximize the amount of time I got to enjoy the unique experience of playing with all foils in limited and due to my lack of knowledge in drafting this format. I could have just as easily have gone 0-2 in the two premier events and been utterly disappointed.
im not sure of the name but if it helps it was originally run by adrian sullvian at a ptq ill see if i can find the link...
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/deck/361
this should be it apparently the actual name is extended ascension...kinda lame i know
or its 4-3-2-2 with only 3 tix for each player to enter
yes i agree, i want to see a snap shot od classic.
yes i agree, i want to see a snap shot od classic.
I'd not seen this before either, on further inspection it looks quite good. I might have to give a try.
Thanks for the article. It makes it so much easier than having to go through all the events myself.
If only you could cover STD and Classic as well!
You're wrong here, Deluxicoff. A spell is countered if all of its targets are made illegal, and as such they do not gain life.
There are a bunch of decks that use Bloodchief Ascension, Isochron Scepter, Countryside Crusher and a number of other cheap efficient cards in order to deal a lot of quick damage to activate the Ascension and removal Countryside blockers.
Here are the tournament numbers and players for the decks I called Isochron Giant. I'm not sure what the deck's pilots actually call the deck.
867704
mats
889172
BenitoUK1
889173
gOOgs
889176
BenitoUK1
889184
mats
889188
Boin
You know Paul, I don't think I'm going to be able to make you happy until I start a series of articles on Classic Tribal.
to give a quick example
4-3-2-2 que would be 4-3-2-2 for each player on the team or u could think of it as 8-6-4-4 and then players split it. Hope that helps some :)