Awesome article! I love Thailand. I love Magic. The thought of those two things combined... woot! The Thais are such a friendly and honest culture that I doubt cheating would ever occur (In the US or UK, I keep my eyes peeled 24/7).
It's a good thing the cards were in English! I did a German pre-release once, all in German, not fun- had to beg my opponents to translate their cards. I ironically won in the end though :D (Viva la Coldsnap)
I've found random maindeck Stifles to be awful. But yeah I see no reason to run this over Thresh. That said making a deck that beats Thresh is not too hard.
First of all, I think that the "contradictory sentence" actually means "card advantage is not one of the win conditions in the rules, but it's nevertheless a way to win games".
Second of all, my deck is Black Stax. Geddon'n'Guys sounds like Ernham/Geddon, a. k. a. drop fattie, geddon away lands, profit. Black Stax is basically a prison deck.
Hello! I'm one of the Thai judges, though I wasn't there on the day you played at our prerelease.
First of all I'm glad that you had a good time, the judge who ran to told you the rules were the pride of our Thai judge community. The system of no fixed main deck is actually a rule that has been out for quite sometime, it just has never been implemented all that much. We used to have the maindecks registered. This was our first trial to allow unfixed maindecks, so you're the lucky man. This system could be done in the prerelease and release events only though.
BTW, where were you from? I wonder why you would decided to travel abroad just for prerelease.
They just need to get rid of the bots and build an Trade system into the game thats more advanced than the medival barter system it currently imploys. Yes bots are nice because you can get cards when ever, but you should have to pay 30% out on every card to some fat nerd that paided 100$ to buy a bot because the game your playing is to lazy to take the fat stacks of cash they swim in every day to work upstairs to pay some one with a CS major to program what could possibly be the simplest online, MMO or any other, game to program a auction house into in the world....
The problem with the current Meta(if you call it a problem) is that Thresh seems to be the superior deck choice when compared to GAT.
Like many decks in the meta it appears yours would fail to RDW quite frequently. Come on Duals!
I am not sure about the 4x moxes, you are running 19 lands without them, for some reason they seem out of place to me. I like the surprise stifle idea but with only 2x I would prefer to include less 1,2,3 ofs and more counter abilities or card advantage to protect your creatures. I agree with the previous posters that your deck screams for Brainstorm (only 2-3 tix for 4x) or ponder. I would cut fire/ice personally and go with bolts for more removal.
One of the biggest problems I see is you have no way to deal with an opponents goyf if it hits the board. Even your sideboard has no inclusion of shackles or threads.
it really is a great time to get into classic although before the spike in force of will would have been better. As it is though there are still many quality cards selling very cheap right now. The power four will not be all that important to tell you the truth once they rotate out of extended classic has very little use for them. I would concentrate on the staples for anyone looking to break into classic. Vamp, LED, STP, Tarmo (it will be a staple if not already), lightning bolt, brainstorm (yes better than ponder Instant speed more useful esp in control match ups) there are more too but im tied up with other projects and very little time
your deck you may want to add beserk, great way to end a game quick if it sticks. Esp on a pumped atog.
I think what he's trying to say is that while simply having more cards doesn't necessarily mean that you win (it doesn't matter how many cards are in your hand or in play if your opponent is aiming a lightning bolt to your face when you are at 3, besides counterspells), the player who gains more card advantage is usually, well, at an advantage.
I think what he's trying to say is that while simply having more cards doesn't necessarily mean that you win (it doesn't matter how many cards are in your hand or in play if your opponent is aiming a lightning bolt to your face when you are at 3, besides counterspells), the player who gains more card advantage is usually, well, at an advantage.
I was simply trying to point out that while you don't WIN for having more cards, the person who has the most cards typically DOES win... not always obviously, but their ability to get 2for1s probably won them the game. It is an ackward sentence.
One of the big plusses for Herd in a commons environment has always been the ability to get a Nameless Inversion if necessary. It's more of a tutor (as in removal spell or another guy) than a simple +1 CA from another herd.
I liked the article. You made the point well that card advantage isn't the end of the story and that for many decks or matchup, it's actually almost irrelevant.
I think it got off to a rocky start, though. The following sentence, in particular, seems to try real hard to contradict itself in the most obvious way possible.
While it is true that you don't win from having more cards than anyone else, card advantage typically tells the tale of who wins a given match.
You are basically saying that you don't win from card advantage but yes you do.
I have found the stifles to be very good. They range on being a blow out to a one mana land destruction spell.
Awesome article! I love Thailand. I love Magic. The thought of those two things combined... woot! The Thais are such a friendly and honest culture that I doubt cheating would ever occur (In the US or UK, I keep my eyes peeled 24/7).
It's a good thing the cards were in English! I did a German pre-release once, all in German, not fun- had to beg my opponents to translate their cards. I ironically won in the end though :D (Viva la Coldsnap)
Glad to hear you had a good time :)
I've found random maindeck Stifles to be awful. But yeah I see no reason to run this over Thresh. That said making a deck that beats Thresh is not too hard.
First of all, I think that the "contradictory sentence" actually means "card advantage is not one of the win conditions in the rules, but it's nevertheless a way to win games".
Second of all, my deck is Black Stax. Geddon'n'Guys sounds like Ernham/Geddon, a. k. a. drop fattie, geddon away lands, profit. Black Stax is basically a prison deck.
I'm happy also that you have a good time prerelease in Thailand
however on Sunday fewer players showed up in event than the Sat.
Hello! I'm one of the Thai judges, though I wasn't there on the day you played at our prerelease.
First of all I'm glad that you had a good time, the judge who ran to told you the rules were the pride of our Thai judge community. The system of no fixed main deck is actually a rule that has been out for quite sometime, it just has never been implemented all that much. We used to have the maindecks registered. This was our first trial to allow unfixed maindecks, so you're the lucky man. This system could be done in the prerelease and release events only though.
BTW, where were you from? I wonder why you would decided to travel abroad just for prerelease.
They just need to get rid of the bots and build an Trade system into the game thats more advanced than the medival barter system it currently imploys. Yes bots are nice because you can get cards when ever, but you should have to pay 30% out on every card to some fat nerd that paided 100$ to buy a bot because the game your playing is to lazy to take the fat stacks of cash they swim in every day to work upstairs to pay some one with a CS major to program what could possibly be the simplest online, MMO or any other, game to program a auction house into in the world....
Thanks Sean. That was well worth reading.
You've inspired me to work more on hosing decks.
The problem with the current Meta(if you call it a problem) is that Thresh seems to be the superior deck choice when compared to GAT.
Like many decks in the meta it appears yours would fail to RDW quite frequently. Come on Duals!
I am not sure about the 4x moxes, you are running 19 lands without them, for some reason they seem out of place to me. I like the surprise stifle idea but with only 2x I would prefer to include less 1,2,3 ofs and more counter abilities or card advantage to protect your creatures. I agree with the previous posters that your deck screams for Brainstorm (only 2-3 tix for 4x) or ponder. I would cut fire/ice personally and go with bolts for more removal.
One of the biggest problems I see is you have no way to deal with an opponents goyf if it hits the board. Even your sideboard has no inclusion of shackles or threads.
Prize Updates.
Frowns.
I deleted a comment on here about ponder being better than brainstorm because you could shuffle them away.
But with Brainstorm you get the stuff that makes ponder good and protects your hand from Thoughtsieze and instant speed.
I think that is my arguement.
Sorry about deleting your comment. :(
busy busy i have been im gonna play in the next one i hope so i should have the meta report up to date.
it really is a great time to get into classic although before the spike in force of will would have been better. As it is though there are still many quality cards selling very cheap right now. The power four will not be all that important to tell you the truth once they rotate out of extended classic has very little use for them. I would concentrate on the staples for anyone looking to break into classic. Vamp, LED, STP, Tarmo (it will be a staple if not already), lightning bolt, brainstorm (yes better than ponder Instant speed more useful esp in control match ups) there are more too but im tied up with other projects and very little time
your deck you may want to add beserk, great way to end a game quick if it sticks. Esp on a pumped atog.
Thank you,
I am going to have a set before the week is out, so I shold be fine
JX, you can borrow my brainstorms.
Ponder: Is it better than Brainstorm?
Is it worth having the red for Fire and Grudge over no red and black removal?
I'd look at adding Ponder to this deck.
Lightning bolt could also be possible removal since you're already playing red.
Other than that, good article.
I think what he's trying to say is that while simply having more cards doesn't necessarily mean that you win (it doesn't matter how many cards are in your hand or in play if your opponent is aiming a lightning bolt to your face when you are at 3, besides counterspells), the player who gains more card advantage is usually, well, at an advantage.
I think what he's trying to say is that while simply having more cards doesn't necessarily mean that you win (it doesn't matter how many cards are in your hand or in play if your opponent is aiming a lightning bolt to your face when you are at 3, besides counterspells), the player who gains more card advantage is usually, well, at an advantage.
I was simply trying to point out that while you don't WIN for having more cards, the person who has the most cards typically DOES win... not always obviously, but their ability to get 2for1s probably won them the game. It is an ackward sentence.
One of the big plusses for Herd in a commons environment has always been the ability to get a Nameless Inversion if necessary. It's more of a tutor (as in removal spell or another guy) than a simple +1 CA from another herd.
The decklist is missing 4 cards
Every time I play rainbow stairwell I wonder why I hadn't been playing it more... it's a fantastic format that really encourages strange synergies.
Good article and thanks for the reminder on RS!
I liked the article. You made the point well that card advantage isn't the end of the story and that for many decks or matchup, it's actually almost irrelevant.
I think it got off to a rocky start, though. The following sentence, in particular, seems to try real hard to contradict itself in the most obvious way possible.
While it is true that you don't win from having more cards than anyone else, card advantage typically tells the tale of who wins a given match.
You are basically saying that you don't win from card advantage but yes you do.
I wasn't trying to bust on your or anything, it just was the start of a good discussion. You're right, they're freaking slow :)