I would mention the non-tribal enchantment Retreat to Coralhelm as BFF with tribal standby Knight of the Reliquary. Other than that, your review, albeit pessimistic, is spot on.
Pokemon online does digital sleeves and deckboxes, but they matter more because both objects are present in the playspace, there are some really cool sleeves in the game, and you can show off, but it makes more sense there then it does in magic, because you see things differently.
If magic ever came up with a display like that I would love to see digital sleeves.
Rotation going ahead as expected. Khans and FRF will rotate shortly.
Jace normal price.
Return to Homelands is not coming in 2017.
9E Forest and Chimney Imp are both $0.01, not expensive.
Aven Control is not a deck.
And you don't DQ. But I don't remember the answer for the question. It depends on when the things giving shroud come back into play. It's complex. This actually happened in a game I was in. I conceded in response to the Thieves Auction.
Digital sleeves is sort of both. I was at Renton, and I did talk about this with Lee Sharpe and Matt Tabak. However, I am pretty sure none of us was serious.
There was a implication in CW's comment that he does not DO mainstream sites. And that this site is special to him. Hence his complaint. I don't think the complaint is valid here but I get it.
Imho avoiding the internet is beside the point in this case. That said a little levity in the form of casual >>wink wink<< tall tales is sometimes what the doctor ordered to lighten the mood. That's what needs to be conveyed. That it is not done out of malice and is done not because "everyone else is doing it" because that message is incorrect. We do it on April Fool's because being foolish is something we should all strive for occasionally.
If you find this to be troublesome, frankly you might want to just avoid the internet on April 1st of each year, it's kind of a big thing. Lots of mainstream sites spend a fair bit of time on this kind of thing, Thinkgeek does pages for a half a dozen or so fake products each year.
I'd love to know where you find pure untouched news outlets on April Fools day. Even real serious papers and news channels run joke stories on this day, I think it's just silly to expect a higher standard from a magic web site.
Psh, I just did a quick count of active matches, and there are thousands of player online right now just playing draft alone, to say nothing of constructed, leagues, and casual play.
Yes, because of the nature of the day (April Fool's) Pete traditionally posts some erroneous and obviously so info within his article to entertain his readers. Just be aware of the day you are reading this.
So, the link about standard rotation does not reflect this idea.
Am guessing it's an April Fool's prank?
At some point, please share what were pranks, and what is real. Sarcasm and such pranks are somewhat unfair to fans with autism, like myself. If my vetted resources are going to joke, I can find news from other sources without that barrier to my understanding. Sorry if I sound like a wet blanket, but I have other outlets for humor and so-called jokes. Please advise...
Back in the day when there were 'thousands' of players on mtgo, if your object was to watch a game then the table view was the best way to do it, the tables stayed in one place. if you used the list view everything moved constantly. It's so much easier today with filters (and only a few people online).
I appreciate all the suggestions but I don't think I'm going to bother doing any more work on the deck, at least not for the foreseeable future. I'm working on an extremely limited budget - the reason I chose a ramp strategy for the deck was because I can't afford a mana base that could support 5 colours on lands alone - and I've got dozens of other decks and deck ideas that I'd rather spend the money on improving; the Nephilim just didn't really strike me as interesting or enjoyable enough to justify using resources on them.
For what it's worth, Batterskull and the Swords of X and Y are illegal in Underdog, the most natural milieu for the Nephilim.
In my take, I went for 2 Coalition Victory as the main path of victory as you don't have to win via the attack step. I used 4 Faithless Looting to find them and filter out redundant Nephilim. http://deckstats.net/decks/47662/390398-nephilim/en
Yeah the table paradigm is interesting but I will say at first glance it seems chaotic and if you add in syncronized (or badly synced) sound and animations it gets to a drag both on machine and eyes. I got in the habit of turning off the sound for MTGO sound effects entirely during the beta because of it. While the wall of text is annoying in the way it jumps and is sorted (or not sorted) at least it is legible.
So... sounds like the deck needs a few things to shore up these difficulties (by the way enjoyed your weirds this week.)
-- Something to give your guys haste
-- Something to speed your guys up (you had the Bops and Walls for accelleration but I gather they were not as useful)
-- Sweepers
-- since you know you aren't going to be hitting higher than 4cmc and you have acceleration you can skimp on some land in favor of other cheap proactive stuff like removal.
-- 5 colors means using dual lands if you can afford them. I have built a fairly sturdy nephelim deck using swamps (all duals) to fuel stuff like Tendrils of Corruption and Corrupt.
-- Maybe some equipment like a batterskull or sword of x and y. Or something else, there are plenty of ways to make your guys better.
I liked the Shards guys but imho making your guys bigger was not very useful in the games I watched of yours. Occasionally they let you end the game early but usually it was just the usual chump them until removal and then no worries.
You can also build Nephelim to favor one of the four abilities. The discard cards one is especially nice if you can stuff your deck full of reanimation targets and reanimator. I realize this goes against the grain of running a tribe but sometimes off tribe creatures make the abilities of your on-tribe guys more interesting.
Glad to see some people building outside the usual boxes and trying stuff. I'd gotten the sense that was diminishing of late. Winning the underdog prize can help a low budget collection a lot if you can keep doing it.
The tables feature was not the problem, the problem was the animation of all the avatars and the sounds used to simulate a busy room. While this sort of thing is funny the first time you see it, it gets old quickly.
Wow! I did not know that they postponed the rotation. Immediately after I read it here I went and bought up cards for 1000s of tix. I dont think that all the vendors are aware of it yet. I am gonna make a nice profit on this investment :)
Also, I am happy that they went away from the digital sleeves. I always play with my mtgo cards unsleeved, I dont like the way it feels to hold on a sleeve.
I would mention the non-tribal enchantment Retreat to Coralhelm as BFF with tribal standby Knight of the Reliquary. Other than that, your review, albeit pessimistic, is spot on.
Pokemon online does digital sleeves and deckboxes, but they matter more because both objects are present in the playspace, there are some really cool sleeves in the game, and you can show off, but it makes more sense there then it does in magic, because you see things differently.
If magic ever came up with a display like that I would love to see digital sleeves.
I hope I remember them all.
Rotation going ahead as expected. Khans and FRF will rotate shortly.
Jace normal price.
Return to Homelands is not coming in 2017.
9E Forest and Chimney Imp are both $0.01, not expensive.
Aven Control is not a deck.
And you don't DQ. But I don't remember the answer for the question. It depends on when the things giving shroud come back into play. It's complex. This actually happened in a game I was in. I conceded in response to the Thieves Auction.
Digital sleeves is sort of both. I was at Renton, and I did talk about this with Lee Sharpe and Matt Tabak. However, I am pretty sure none of us was serious.
There was a implication in CW's comment that he does not DO mainstream sites. And that this site is special to him. Hence his complaint. I don't think the complaint is valid here but I get it.
Imho avoiding the internet is beside the point in this case. That said a little levity in the form of casual >>wink wink<< tall tales is sometimes what the doctor ordered to lighten the mood. That's what needs to be conveyed. That it is not done out of malice and is done not because "everyone else is doing it" because that message is incorrect. We do it on April Fool's because being foolish is something we should all strive for occasionally.
Don't you think so?
If you find this to be troublesome, frankly you might want to just avoid the internet on April 1st of each year, it's kind of a big thing. Lots of mainstream sites spend a fair bit of time on this kind of thing, Thinkgeek does pages for a half a dozen or so fake products each year.
Thanks, Paul. I appreciate the direct answer.
Thanks, longtimegone. I just won't read articles on April 1st, then. Thanks for your compassion!
I'd love to know where you find pure untouched news outlets on April Fools day. Even real serious papers and news channels run joke stories on this day, I think it's just silly to expect a higher standard from a magic web site.
Psh, I just did a quick count of active matches, and there are thousands of player online right now just playing draft alone, to say nothing of constructed, leagues, and casual play.
Yes, because of the nature of the day (April Fool's) Pete traditionally posts some erroneous and obviously so info within his article to entertain his readers. Just be aware of the day you are reading this.
So, the link about standard rotation does not reflect this idea.
Am guessing it's an April Fool's prank?
At some point, please share what were pranks, and what is real. Sarcasm and such pranks are somewhat unfair to fans with autism, like myself. If my vetted resources are going to joke, I can find news from other sources without that barrier to my understanding. Sorry if I sound like a wet blanket, but I have other outlets for humor and so-called jokes. Please advise...
Back in the day when there were 'thousands' of players on mtgo, if your object was to watch a game then the table view was the best way to do it, the tables stayed in one place. if you used the list view everything moved constantly. It's so much easier today with filters (and only a few people online).
Yeah I can see that. I salute your effort despite your budgetary constraints.
I appreciate all the suggestions but I don't think I'm going to bother doing any more work on the deck, at least not for the foreseeable future. I'm working on an extremely limited budget - the reason I chose a ramp strategy for the deck was because I can't afford a mana base that could support 5 colours on lands alone - and I've got dozens of other decks and deck ideas that I'd rather spend the money on improving; the Nephilim just didn't really strike me as interesting or enjoyable enough to justify using resources on them.
For what it's worth, Batterskull and the Swords of X and Y are illegal in Underdog, the most natural milieu for the Nephilim.
In my take, I went for 2 Coalition Victory as the main path of victory as you don't have to win via the attack step. I used 4 Faithless Looting to find them and filter out redundant Nephilim. http://deckstats.net/decks/47662/390398-nephilim/en
Yeah the table paradigm is interesting but I will say at first glance it seems chaotic and if you add in syncronized (or badly synced) sound and animations it gets to a drag both on machine and eyes. I got in the habit of turning off the sound for MTGO sound effects entirely during the beta because of it. While the wall of text is annoying in the way it jumps and is sorted (or not sorted) at least it is legible.
It was just more enjoyable to look at then a unsorted or sorted poorly wall of text.
Well, I can tell you that when I first saw screenshots of the old tables, I *thought* it was a joke.
So... sounds like the deck needs a few things to shore up these difficulties (by the way enjoyed your weirds this week.)
-- Something to give your guys haste
-- Something to speed your guys up (you had the Bops and Walls for accelleration but I gather they were not as useful)
-- Sweepers
-- since you know you aren't going to be hitting higher than 4cmc and you have acceleration you can skimp on some land in favor of other cheap proactive stuff like removal.
-- 5 colors means using dual lands if you can afford them. I have built a fairly sturdy nephelim deck using swamps (all duals) to fuel stuff like Tendrils of Corruption and Corrupt.
-- Maybe some equipment like a batterskull or sword of x and y. Or something else, there are plenty of ways to make your guys better.
I liked the Shards guys but imho making your guys bigger was not very useful in the games I watched of yours. Occasionally they let you end the game early but usually it was just the usual chump them until removal and then no worries.
You can also build Nephelim to favor one of the four abilities. The discard cards one is especially nice if you can stuff your deck full of reanimation targets and reanimator. I realize this goes against the grain of running a tribe but sometimes off tribe creatures make the abilities of your on-tribe guys more interesting.
Glad to see some people building outside the usual boxes and trying stuff. I'd gotten the sense that was diminishing of late. Winning the underdog prize can help a low budget collection a lot if you can keep doing it.
The tables feature was not the problem, the problem was the animation of all the avatars and the sounds used to simulate a busy room. While this sort of thing is funny the first time you see it, it gets old quickly.
I can't tell if the table thing is a joke. I actually liked the tables...
I didn't even read the write up blurb before the prices. OK, it makes a lot more sense now.
Nekusar, the Mindrazer says to check your facts
The prank was ruined when JVP was listed at its normal price in the most valuable cards section at the end.
Or maybe that was put there on purpose as a wink+nudge. Anyway, no mythic has ever been a participation nor store promo.
Wow! I did not know that they postponed the rotation. Immediately after I read it here I went and bought up cards for 1000s of tix. I dont think that all the vendors are aware of it yet. I am gonna make a nice profit on this investment :)
Also, I am happy that they went away from the digital sleeves. I always play with my mtgo cards unsleeved, I dont like the way it feels to hold on a sleeve.
Nice prank but what's with the link to the clash packs? I would have RickRolled
Wasn't sure if the play mat part was a joke? At worst it is a net zero, but lots of people liked them.
The other one I was not sure of was the flip Jace price drop?