actually i just want to say that pete's articles here and on starcity are some of the most well-written articles around and more respect is deserved for someeone who has invested way more effort into the mgic community as a whole from writing, judging, and everything else. As a sidenote, the whole anonymous thing is really starting to anger me.
you are largely irrel.
How stupid do you sound?
and that whole comment that he used to be a awesome writer?
dude the guy has covered so many years of competetive formats that it amounts to more writting than you ever did in your life.
if he wants to write about an event that was memorable for him and his friends.
who the fuck are you to say no?
hey why don't you write for a website so i can come spam you with assinine comments
Rating: (0)
Ingredients
Poultry and Brine
1 cup kosher salt
1 cup brown sugar
1 gallon water
18 to 21-pound turkey, skin intact and boned except for drumsticks
House seasoning, recipe follows
Cornbread Dressing, recipe follows
3 to 4-pound duck, boned
3 to 4-pound chicken, boned
Paprika
House Seasoning
1 cup salt
1/4 cup black pepper
1/4 cup garlic powder
Cornbread Dressing:
Cornbread
1 cup self rising cornmeal
1/2 cup self-rising flour
3/4 cup buttermilk
2 eggs
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
Dressing
7 slices white bread, dried in warm oven
Cornbread
1 sleeve saltine crackers
2 cups chopped celery
1 large onion, chopped
8 tablespoons butter
7 cups chicken stock
1 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1 teaspoon dried sage
1 tablespoon poultry seasoning
5 eggs, beaten
Directions
Poultry and Brine
Mix salt and sugar with the water. Brine is ready when the mixture is completely dissolved. If the water is heated to quicken the process, make sure it is cooled to room temperature before placing meat in. Let the 3 birds sit in brine in the refrigerator overnight.
Preheat roaster to 500 degrees F.
Lay turkey skin side down on a flat surface. Dust turkey with House Seasoning and add 1/4-inch layer of cornbread dressing. Lay duck skin side down on top of dressing. Dust duck with House Seasoning and add 1/4-inch layer of dressing. Repeat with the chicken.
Begin trussing up the turkey at the neck. Insert metal skewer about 1/2-inch from the edge and up through the other side. Run butcher's twine between skin and skewer and tighten to draw both sides together. Continue down to legs. With every other skewer, draw together the duck and chicken skin. Tie together turkey legs to resemble standard turkey. Dust turkey skin with paprika.
Roast turducken for 15 minutes. Then turn the roaster down to 225 degrees F to finish, approximately 3 hours. Remove turducken from roaster once the internal temperature in the chicken reaches 155 degrees F. Let rest for at least 20 minutes before carving.
Cut across the middle of the breast completely through. Plate thin slices containing turkey, duck and chicken.
Cook's Notes: If using a smoker to cook, smoke at 225 degrees F for 5 hours, rotating every 20 to 30 minutes until internal temperature reaches 155 degrees F and external temperature reaches 165 degrees F. Try to keep the flare-ups from the fire to a minimum.
House Seasoning
Mix ingredients together and store in an airtight container for up to 6 months.
Cornbread Dressing
Yield: 8 to 10 servings
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.
To make the cornbread, combine all ingredients and pour into a greased shallow baking dish. Bake for approximately 20 to 25 minutes. Remove from oven and let cool.
To make the dressing, crumble dried white bread slices, cornbread and crackers. Mix together and set aside. Saute chopped celery and onion in butter until transparent, approximately 5 to 10 minutes. Pour over corn bread mixture. Add stock, mix well and add salt, pepper, sage, and poultry seasoning. Add beaten eggs and mix well. Follow instructions above to stuff birds.
Yeah that whole round was less fun than it could have been with decent draws on your part. Still your deck did inspire me to go mess around with allies.
I never did take into account States such as California and Texas, I am admittedly a bit short sighted in the regard because I'm within a 4 hour drive to so many different cities on this side of the country.
This is just an idea, what if for instance in California and Texas, you split the state up, and run two different events? (Like a NoCal and SoCal Championship?) I'm not sure how that could happen, but like I said, it's just an idea!
I do apologize for not mentioning the free events, that is a pretty awesome prize and again something I failed to mention, mainly because that's been standard in Kentucky for a few years now :)
Also want to mention this. check out Sun Mesa's champs webpage I think it is the2009s.com there you can see where champs events are happening, and details about the writing contest they are having.
Hey Joshua, Glenn from Sunmesa Events here,thanks for the gauntlet for the Championship. One thing I always loved was that if you got ready for standard with States you always were ready for the coming year.
On the no border we decided it was really unfair to so many North American players to not be able to play in the championships because they were so far from home. Texas, & California are two examples. I do agree it detracts somewhat from the title. Time will tell. Something you didn't mention is that all the champions get free entries to all Primier Constructed Events hosted by ALL the organizers for a year. That's definately Not like your average Game Day.
The deck is called Boros Bushwacker, it is not meh at all, while the most important card there is goblin guide followed by geopede, lynx then skyfisher. The Bushwhacker is a great finisher even thoough only as a 2 of mostly.
ref; deckcheck most played cards per archtype:
Arid Mesa · Lightning Bolt · Goblin Guide · Path to Exile · Plated Geopede · Teetering Peaks · Steppe Lynx · Celestial Purge · Kor Skyfisher · Burst Lightning · Ranger of Eos · Elite Vanguard · Scalding Tarn · Harm's Way · Marsh Flats · Goblin Bushwhacker · Magma Spray · Hellspark Elemental
On his turn he plays Clone on my Bloodbraid but realizes it doesn't cascade and concedes << i know, that was a bit upsetting for me. good game and good article ( The dealer hated me that round ).
well if you look at the decklist there is not a single boros card in the deck. Boros was the red/white guild in ravnica...so must red white decks are now boros something. And Kor Skyfisher is actually pretty important in the deck. and as such it deserves to be the picture. and goblin bushwhacker is just meh..its good but not great
First, it was Ajani Vengent, not Goldmane. Which is nice for the deck since it works well with The Scepter, tap em down, keep em tapped, you can use Ajani as a sort of second Scepter if you have the first one out and build up Ajani's Loyalty that way.
Hammy and AJ should get the bulk of the credit. My main contribution was knowing that when a combo deck gets outraced by both aggro and control decks, it's not a good combo deck. That hold true no matter what format you play.
Apart from the suckitude of the Time Sieve deck, the other driving force was we had Elspeth and Lumiarch as sideboard pieces in other decks, which seemed ridiculous. Hammy drove the bus to get the the conclusion that those cards should be the centerpiece of a deck, which went through the stages you pointed out.
To be fair, I had stayed up to 2am (5am my time) talking to Chris Kiritz the night before. And that RW Ascension deck we designed requires a LOT of patience... for example, you don't want to forget to tap down the opponent's only green mana during their upkeep... :)
Thank god for Momir. I have new found appreciation for it as "that format you can play where luck counts for WAY more than cognitive ability". Whether you've only had 4 hours sleep or 10 beers, you can still win at Momir.
And Promo Duress and Swords make me happy. VERY happy - especially since they are in a month where I'll actually buy stuff from the shop.
Well it was fun again had 2 very good games and well a very un-winnable last one
I was not expecting any real combo decks like FatManInALittleCoat's Imps as in recent weeks people seemed to have calmed down and got back to critter beats, so I hope this does not put people off.
I am not upset with FatManInALittleCoat it's a game and was his first time in the tourney and even he said that he wish he had not used it but was unsure of the nature of the decks we have been playing.
So I hope I see you all again next week and I hope this time I can stop being the unlucky finalist and push for that top spot.
Interesting to see two articles (your's and Josh's) tackle the same format simultaneous from two completely different perspectives. (Though you both did mention Worlds as a touchstone.) I happen to agree with Josh about Worlds being a huge warping factor on the meta game. It always has been since I can remember there being a worlds. (Something about 'Norwegian Green' comes to mind vaguely.)
I like the Boros Ascension deck, very techy. Sam's deck seemed interesting to me in that it had such synergy with the right draws but seemed to stumble a lot if the draw wasn't great. Some decks recover well from such situations that one didn't.
On principle I agree. Grixis control has been talked about a lot in whispers lately. And it seems like a strong answer to certain decks. I am a little surprised though to see it did not fair well at Worlds. Maybe the pros know something...
Josh nothing wrong in netdecking for serious competition. I think where I hear the most complaints about it is from people who are a) very casual and b) people who think of themselves as rogue deck builders and want to interact with others of the same mindset. What these people fail to realize is that true netdecking is about innovating on known decks not merely copying them and shuffling them up. Well that's my pov.
Another deck that should probably be added to a gauntlet somewhere along the line is some sort of Grixis. It hasn't taken a step out into the public view because it's more or less Jund with smaller creatures. However, with Naya winning Worlds, I can see a huge uptick in the decks that will be very cold to a Grixis deck built for tempo and disruption, finally topping up on Cruel Ultimatum to reload in the mid-late game. If it's not in your gauntlet yet, just give it a try.
Interesting ideas there. There is also front-line sage for the same function as the courier. I think though I wished for my madness spells to be more effective. I will have to explore this some more and test different builds. Pit Keeper does seem like tech if you need a human body for the recursion but there are plenty of noncreature spells that love creatures in the graveyard. Much to think about. Thanks for the comment. :)
At least one executioner's capsule. Parasitic strix and the gargoyle will thank you
actually i just want to say that pete's articles here and on starcity are some of the most well-written articles around and more respect is deserved for someeone who has invested way more effort into the mgic community as a whole from writing, judging, and everything else. As a sidenote, the whole anonymous thing is really starting to anger me.
great article paul. Thanks for the shout out at the end. And dont worry fadew, ive done the same thing with a clone before as well.
you are largely irrel.
How stupid do you sound?
and that whole comment that he used to be a awesome writer?
dude the guy has covered so many years of competetive formats that it amounts to more writting than you ever did in your life.
if he wants to write about an event that was memorable for him and his friends.
who the fuck are you to say no?
hey why don't you write for a website so i can come spam you with assinine comments
mtgo name menace13
List by Paula Dean
Super Stuffed Turducken
by: Paula Deen | Uploaded: 11/16/2009
Prep Time: 30 mins
Inactive Prep Time: 8 hrs
Cook Time: 5 hrs
Difficulty: Easy
Yield: serves 25
Rating: (0)
Ingredients
Poultry and Brine
1 cup kosher salt
1 cup brown sugar
1 gallon water
18 to 21-pound turkey, skin intact and boned except for drumsticks
House seasoning, recipe follows
Cornbread Dressing, recipe follows
3 to 4-pound duck, boned
3 to 4-pound chicken, boned
Paprika
House Seasoning
1 cup salt
1/4 cup black pepper
1/4 cup garlic powder
Cornbread Dressing:
Cornbread
1 cup self rising cornmeal
1/2 cup self-rising flour
3/4 cup buttermilk
2 eggs
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
Dressing
7 slices white bread, dried in warm oven
Cornbread
1 sleeve saltine crackers
2 cups chopped celery
1 large onion, chopped
8 tablespoons butter
7 cups chicken stock
1 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1 teaspoon dried sage
1 tablespoon poultry seasoning
5 eggs, beaten
Directions
Poultry and Brine
Mix salt and sugar with the water. Brine is ready when the mixture is completely dissolved. If the water is heated to quicken the process, make sure it is cooled to room temperature before placing meat in. Let the 3 birds sit in brine in the refrigerator overnight.
Preheat roaster to 500 degrees F.
Lay turkey skin side down on a flat surface. Dust turkey with House Seasoning and add 1/4-inch layer of cornbread dressing. Lay duck skin side down on top of dressing. Dust duck with House Seasoning and add 1/4-inch layer of dressing. Repeat with the chicken.
Begin trussing up the turkey at the neck. Insert metal skewer about 1/2-inch from the edge and up through the other side. Run butcher's twine between skin and skewer and tighten to draw both sides together. Continue down to legs. With every other skewer, draw together the duck and chicken skin. Tie together turkey legs to resemble standard turkey. Dust turkey skin with paprika.
Roast turducken for 15 minutes. Then turn the roaster down to 225 degrees F to finish, approximately 3 hours. Remove turducken from roaster once the internal temperature in the chicken reaches 155 degrees F. Let rest for at least 20 minutes before carving.
Cut across the middle of the breast completely through. Plate thin slices containing turkey, duck and chicken.
Cook's Notes: If using a smoker to cook, smoke at 225 degrees F for 5 hours, rotating every 20 to 30 minutes until internal temperature reaches 155 degrees F and external temperature reaches 165 degrees F. Try to keep the flare-ups from the fire to a minimum.
House Seasoning
Mix ingredients together and store in an airtight container for up to 6 months.
Cornbread Dressing
Yield: 8 to 10 servings
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.
To make the cornbread, combine all ingredients and pour into a greased shallow baking dish. Bake for approximately 20 to 25 minutes. Remove from oven and let cool.
To make the dressing, crumble dried white bread slices, cornbread and crackers. Mix together and set aside. Saute chopped celery and onion in butter until transparent, approximately 5 to 10 minutes. Pour over corn bread mixture. Add stock, mix well and add salt, pepper, sage, and poultry seasoning. Add beaten eggs and mix well. Follow instructions above to stuff birds.
Hear, hear! though I don't know anything about the Bushwacker's tag team.
Yeah that whole round was less fun than it could have been with decent draws on your part. Still your deck did inspire me to go mess around with allies.
I hate the art to Bushwacker. It's ugly. If I could have imported a picture, I would have used a pic of the bushwackers tag team from WWE.
Hi Glenn, thanks for stopping by!
I never did take into account States such as California and Texas, I am admittedly a bit short sighted in the regard because I'm within a 4 hour drive to so many different cities on this side of the country.
This is just an idea, what if for instance in California and Texas, you split the state up, and run two different events? (Like a NoCal and SoCal Championship?) I'm not sure how that could happen, but like I said, it's just an idea!
I do apologize for not mentioning the free events, that is a pretty awesome prize and again something I failed to mention, mainly because that's been standard in Kentucky for a few years now :)
Also want to mention this. check out Sun Mesa's champs webpage I think it is the2009s.com there you can see where champs events are happening, and details about the writing contest they are having.
Hey Joshua, Glenn from Sunmesa Events here,thanks for the gauntlet for the Championship. One thing I always loved was that if you got ready for standard with States you always were ready for the coming year.
On the no border we decided it was really unfair to so many North American players to not be able to play in the championships because they were so far from home. Texas, & California are two examples. I do agree it detracts somewhat from the title. Time will tell. Something you didn't mention is that all the champions get free entries to all Primier Constructed Events hosted by ALL the organizers for a year. That's definately Not like your average Game Day.
The deck is called Boros Bushwacker, it is not meh at all, while the most important card there is goblin guide followed by geopede, lynx then skyfisher. The Bushwhacker is a great finisher even thoough only as a 2 of mostly.
ref; deckcheck most played cards per archtype:
Arid Mesa · Lightning Bolt · Goblin Guide · Path to Exile · Plated Geopede · Teetering Peaks · Steppe Lynx · Celestial Purge · Kor Skyfisher · Burst Lightning · Ranger of Eos · Elite Vanguard · Scalding Tarn · Harm's Way · Marsh Flats · Goblin Bushwhacker · Magma Spray · Hellspark Elemental
On his turn he plays Clone on my Bloodbraid but realizes it doesn't cascade and concedes << i know, that was a bit upsetting for me. good game and good article ( The dealer hated me that round ).
well if you look at the decklist there is not a single boros card in the deck. Boros was the red/white guild in ravnica...so must red white decks are now boros something. And Kor Skyfisher is actually pretty important in the deck. and as such it deserves to be the picture. and goblin bushwhacker is just meh..its good but not great
On the note of confusing pictures... How did Kor Skyfishers beat out Boros for the picture. I mean the deck isn't called Boros skyfisher.
First, it was Ajani Vengent, not Goldmane. Which is nice for the deck since it works well with The Scepter, tap em down, keep em tapped, you can use Ajani as a sort of second Scepter if you have the first one out and build up Ajani's Loyalty that way.
Hammy and AJ should get the bulk of the credit. My main contribution was knowing that when a combo deck gets outraced by both aggro and control decks, it's not a good combo deck. That hold true no matter what format you play.
Apart from the suckitude of the Time Sieve deck, the other driving force was we had Elspeth and Lumiarch as sideboard pieces in other decks, which seemed ridiculous. Hammy drove the bus to get the the conclusion that those cards should be the centerpiece of a deck, which went through the stages you pointed out.
Because I like Lotus Cobra
To be fair, I had stayed up to 2am (5am my time) talking to Chris Kiritz the night before. And that RW Ascension deck we designed requires a LOT of patience... for example, you don't want to forget to tap down the opponent's only green mana during their upkeep... :)
Thank god for Momir. I have new found appreciation for it as "that format you can play where luck counts for WAY more than cognitive ability". Whether you've only had 4 hours sleep or 10 beers, you can still win at Momir.
And Promo Duress and Swords make me happy. VERY happy - especially since they are in a month where I'll actually buy stuff from the shop.
Well for instance speed protection Aether Vial would do the trick.
Well it was fun again had 2 very good games and well a very un-winnable last one
I was not expecting any real combo decks like FatManInALittleCoat's Imps as in recent weeks people seemed to have calmed down and got back to critter beats, so I hope this does not put people off.
I am not upset with FatManInALittleCoat it's a game and was his first time in the tourney and even he said that he wish he had not used it but was unsure of the nature of the decks we have been playing.
So I hope I see you all again next week and I hope this time I can stop being the unlucky finalist and push for that top spot.
Ty to Flip for stepping in for Shard
Why do you have a pic of lotus cobra next to the naya build, when none are in the list?
Interesting to see two articles (your's and Josh's) tackle the same format simultaneous from two completely different perspectives. (Though you both did mention Worlds as a touchstone.) I happen to agree with Josh about Worlds being a huge warping factor on the meta game. It always has been since I can remember there being a worlds. (Something about 'Norwegian Green' comes to mind vaguely.)
I like the Boros Ascension deck, very techy. Sam's deck seemed interesting to me in that it had such synergy with the right draws but seemed to stumble a lot if the draw wasn't great. Some decks recover well from such situations that one didn't.
On principle I agree. Grixis control has been talked about a lot in whispers lately. And it seems like a strong answer to certain decks. I am a little surprised though to see it did not fair well at Worlds. Maybe the pros know something...
Josh nothing wrong in netdecking for serious competition. I think where I hear the most complaints about it is from people who are a) very casual and b) people who think of themselves as rogue deck builders and want to interact with others of the same mindset. What these people fail to realize is that true netdecking is about innovating on known decks not merely copying them and shuffling them up. Well that's my pov.
Another deck that should probably be added to a gauntlet somewhere along the line is some sort of Grixis. It hasn't taken a step out into the public view because it's more or less Jund with smaller creatures. However, with Naya winning Worlds, I can see a huge uptick in the decks that will be very cold to a Grixis deck built for tempo and disruption, finally topping up on Cruel Ultimatum to reload in the mid-late game. If it's not in your gauntlet yet, just give it a try.
Interesting ideas there. There is also front-line sage for the same function as the courier. I think though I wished for my madness spells to be more effective. I will have to explore this some more and test different builds. Pit Keeper does seem like tech if you need a human body for the recursion but there are plenty of noncreature spells that love creatures in the graveyard. Much to think about. Thanks for the comment. :)
Thought Courier would be nice in Grixis Humans for your Madness spells... Pit Keeper too, for the attrition wars.