AJ_Impy ... The free poll service Josh and Andy used, offers two types of "anti-cheat" prophylactic. One counts IP addys and the other uses cookies. It'd be simple to create another poll, this time using one of the "anti-cheat" options.
JXClaytor ... I too "trust in the human spirit", but like the top of my 5CC deck, it often disapoints me. I'm sure that most voters placed only one vote (with the spirit of fairness). Unfortunately, it takes only one voter to askew the entire poll.
Obviously some "exceptional" people took advantage of our optimistic size up.
I decided not to restrict votes because I trust the human spirit. I understand people want to win, but I also had hopes that people would not abuse the system. If it continues (I check the voting every 30 minutes while I am awake.) I will come up with a new system.
If I have to come up with a new system, I will be very sad.
Probably a question of means. Short of having people email in votes for their favourite and using that to compile the tally, there in't a readily accessible way of having the poll open to everyone once.
My deck did actually make Top 10. I will not say which one it is, but ....
What I do know is (and I'm very disappointed I have to say so) that voting is being totally rigged....
Deck nr 1 for instance went from 10 votes to 50 votes in just over 1 hour or so. It was the number one deck atm. Just now I read Ripleys post about deck #3. And what does catch my attention? Wow, deck number 3 went from less then 10 votes to 90 votes! In just 2 hours......wow, nice competition guys!
I understand people want to win, really bad (I do to). But this is just shameless....
Alex, you probably don't remember me but you are the one who got me into Pauper. You also suggested this website to me. Thank you for all you help and for introducing me to such an exciting format. I have a question for you about writing articles though. How do you get you decklists on such a good looking table? Is there a place I can download one? Thanks again for everything Alex and this is an excellent article too by the way. Keep it up and Pauper to the People!
Lol. I am voting for the only deck not to have 4 pillar of the Paruns. (and even that deck would probably be better with them - only activating Lich Lord or Mikakoro is slightly more problematic)
Played against three necros in this event. I think the only one that did not cast turn 1 necro was Whiffy, and it was the only one I lost to, as weird as that sounds.
Good work except i think you missed on a few decks that will bust out. Pox is one of them, and there are some others that i'm not going to discuss until i test them :).
Didnt the description say no rare lands should be in the decks? It seems they all do...
a quote from your article
2. May NOT have any rare lands (no shock lands, no Pillar, no Tribal lands from Lorwyn, you get the picture.)
I feel you "a bit" unlucky over the tournament especially versus Necro (that being said, we all know how necro might be unbeatable sometime). Even if Mer will remain a solid deck, my opinion is that it wont be as useful as it was was with necro unrestricted. Maybe i am wrong, but Fish/landstill seem to offer much better potential in the meta. With Necro unrestricted, Fish/Still were def too slow compared to Curse/Daze/FoW of nasty merfolks... but now we got a little more time and then i think more controlish version will be better.
interesting exploration about the futher meta. My opinion is that dredge could also be a possible serious competitor thank to recent releases (all ALA/CON/ARB unearth & graveyard stuff + ST hermit druid).
Currently, i am also playing block a lot : the ALA set is a very interesting block, probably one of the best i saw for a while. Aggro & control are both possible and there is a large choice of possible strategies with powerful cards in each familiy.
I really appreciate you opened the debate about Planeswalker. My analyzis is a bit different than yours, but i mostly agree with your conclusion : planeswalkers are a pain for players who likes to play casual. In a competitive view, this is really different : as in almost all sets i knew, there are some rares cards which have a deep impact over all the meta, and planeswalker are a part of them. You are not obliged to run planeswalker to win, even if it helps a lot. But in casual, these cards are not interesting to me (as FoW, Deed and some others are also).
To me, the main origin of the problem is the lack of removal : yes you can deal with PW thank to many stuff. But there is no one card where Planeswalker type is mentioned. If you want to find a removal, you have to look for "permanent" or "card" occurences, unless you wont find any cards to fight them directly. I expect this is the main reason of Celestrial Purge, O. Ring & Maelstrom Pulse recent releases. Currently, Planeswalker are simply like enchantments or artifacts but immune to any specific (naturalize, quasali ...) or mass (WoG, Shatterstorm ...) removals ... this is very potent, but not unbeatable.
That being said, a very good way to fight them remains the Pithing Needle IMO : fast, efficient cutting all the planeswalker abilities, before or after they hit the board and useful versus many others threats. If you want to go on with your usualy deck without to suffer to much, run x4 needle at least on SB, this is crazy efficient.
I used to love playing 60 card singleton (well 60 + 15) and I did try 100cs when it first came out. In the interview the point is made that no two games are the same. This is a draw for the format but I found that trying to tune a 100cs deck was impossible. The card you add/remove may not even be seen for a large number of games. It was this that put me off the format in the end. I know that 'Tog' did a brief article on tuning a deck but if you could grab el_fake for some insight into that it might make 100cs even more accessible for people on the fringe of the format.
Nothing particularly exciting, but I do find planeswalkers really annoying especially elspeth. Wizards, it's simple, don't make a planeswalker that protects itself with a + ability.
All Elspeth does is stall the game for ages, oh yeh and if you play another creature, you lose to wrath effects. I wish there were more 'destroy target permanent'
You could make a rb one that can't hit enchantments, a wg one that can't hit creatures.
Actually my biggest problem with them is that they have haste, almost all the removal for them is sorcery speed and they have haste, nice one wizards, even if I have a pulse for your garruk, you still get your beast token.
As a returning MTG player (last played during Rav block) I think planeswalkers are a big mistake for the game, especially casual. They are no fun to play against, and I often have 'no planeswalkers' in the description.
Many direct damage spells aren't big enough (remember that planeswalkers effectively have starting loyalty+1 as the + ability is used right away). You can't attack effectively into them since many of them pump out chump blockers. The Oblivion Ring solution at common is now weaker due to Quasali Pridemage.
Disappointed that they are here to stay in M10. There needs to be more cards that really punish playing planeswalkers.
AJ_Impy ... The free poll service Josh and Andy used, offers two types of "anti-cheat" prophylactic. One counts IP addys and the other uses cookies. It'd be simple to create another poll, this time using one of the "anti-cheat" options.
JXClaytor ... I too "trust in the human spirit", but like the top of my 5CC deck, it often disapoints me. I'm sure that most voters placed only one vote (with the spirit of fairness). Unfortunately, it takes only one voter to askew the entire poll.
Obviously some "exceptional" people took advantage of our optimistic size up.
er ? i just like Jund guy !!! not even my deck seriously ??
I decided not to restrict votes because I trust the human spirit. I understand people want to win, but I also had hopes that people would not abuse the system. If it continues (I check the voting every 30 minutes while I am awake.) I will come up with a new system.
If I have to come up with a new system, I will be very sad.
Probably a question of means. Short of having people email in votes for their favourite and using that to compile the tally, there in't a readily accessible way of having the poll open to everyone once.
"We've decided to not place any restrictions on how many times you feel like voting." ... why?
lol thats cause im a luck sac !
Hey,
During the time I was writing my comment, deck nr 3 got another 15 votes! Wow, that must really be a great deck,,,,
Too bad all of JXClaytor's and co. efforts to set up this competition go to waste....
My deck did actually make Top 10. I will not say which one it is, but ....
What I do know is (and I'm very disappointed I have to say so) that voting is being totally rigged....
Deck nr 1 for instance went from 10 votes to 50 votes in just over 1 hour or so. It was the number one deck atm. Just now I read Ripleys post about deck #3. And what does catch my attention? Wow, deck number 3 went from less then 10 votes to 90 votes! In just 2 hours......wow, nice competition guys!
I understand people want to win, really bad (I do to). But this is just shameless....
#3 is just by far the best build seems to deal with anything the other decks do soo Cheers Builder
Hello and thank you!
I think the raid deck would probably be better with pillar, the mana isn't too bad and it makes it hard to use raid.
hi, the decklist tables are coded by the sites programmer, jamuraa.
Alex, you probably don't remember me but you are the one who got me into Pauper. You also suggested this website to me. Thank you for all you help and for introducing me to such an exciting format. I have a question for you about writing articles though. How do you get you decklists on such a good looking table? Is there a place I can download one? Thanks again for everything Alex and this is an excellent article too by the way. Keep it up and Pauper to the People!
-Ricky
Lol. I am voting for the only deck not to have 4 pillar of the Paruns. (and even that deck would probably be better with them - only activating Lich Lord or Mikakoro is slightly more problematic)
Played against three necros in this event. I think the only one that did not cast turn 1 necro was Whiffy, and it was the only one I lost to, as weird as that sounds.
obviously this is just scratching the surface. there are gonna be a lot of fun things to try out here.
Good work except i think you missed on a few decks that will bust out. Pox is one of them, and there are some others that i'm not going to discuss until i test them :).
never mind I read further
Didnt the description say no rare lands should be in the decks? It seems they all do...
a quote from your article
2. May NOT have any rare lands (no shock lands, no Pillar, no Tribal lands from Lorwyn, you get the picture.)
Interesting debrief
I feel you "a bit" unlucky over the tournament especially versus Necro (that being said, we all know how necro might be unbeatable sometime). Even if Mer will remain a solid deck, my opinion is that it wont be as useful as it was was with necro unrestricted. Maybe i am wrong, but Fish/landstill seem to offer much better potential in the meta. With Necro unrestricted, Fish/Still were def too slow compared to Curse/Daze/FoW of nasty merfolks... but now we got a little more time and then i think more controlish version will be better.
Good (better?:) ) luck for the next PE
interesting exploration about the futher meta. My opinion is that dredge could also be a possible serious competitor thank to recent releases (all ALA/CON/ARB unearth & graveyard stuff + ST hermit druid).
Currently, i am also playing block a lot : the ALA set is a very interesting block, probably one of the best i saw for a while. Aggro & control are both possible and there is a large choice of possible strategies with powerful cards in each familiy.
I really appreciate you opened the debate about Planeswalker. My analyzis is a bit different than yours, but i mostly agree with your conclusion : planeswalkers are a pain for players who likes to play casual. In a competitive view, this is really different : as in almost all sets i knew, there are some rares cards which have a deep impact over all the meta, and planeswalker are a part of them. You are not obliged to run planeswalker to win, even if it helps a lot. But in casual, these cards are not interesting to me (as FoW, Deed and some others are also).
To me, the main origin of the problem is the lack of removal : yes you can deal with PW thank to many stuff. But there is no one card where Planeswalker type is mentioned. If you want to find a removal, you have to look for "permanent" or "card" occurences, unless you wont find any cards to fight them directly. I expect this is the main reason of Celestrial Purge, O. Ring & Maelstrom Pulse recent releases. Currently, Planeswalker are simply like enchantments or artifacts but immune to any specific (naturalize, quasali ...) or mass (WoG, Shatterstorm ...) removals ... this is very potent, but not unbeatable.
That being said, a very good way to fight them remains the Pithing Needle IMO : fast, efficient cutting all the planeswalker abilities, before or after they hit the board and useful versus many others threats. If you want to go on with your usualy deck without to suffer to much, run x4 needle at least on SB, this is crazy efficient.
I used to love playing 60 card singleton (well 60 + 15) and I did try 100cs when it first came out. In the interview the point is made that no two games are the same. This is a draw for the format but I found that trying to tune a 100cs deck was impossible. The card you add/remove may not even be seen for a large number of games. It was this that put me off the format in the end. I know that 'Tog' did a brief article on tuning a deck but if you could grab el_fake for some insight into that it might make 100cs even more accessible for people on the fringe of the format.
Just a thought.
Nothing particularly exciting, but I do find planeswalkers really annoying especially elspeth. Wizards, it's simple, don't make a planeswalker that protects itself with a + ability.
All Elspeth does is stall the game for ages, oh yeh and if you play another creature, you lose to wrath effects. I wish there were more 'destroy target permanent'
You could make a rb one that can't hit enchantments, a wg one that can't hit creatures.
Actually my biggest problem with them is that they have haste, almost all the removal for them is sorcery speed and they have haste, nice one wizards, even if I have a pulse for your garruk, you still get your beast token.
As a returning MTG player (last played during Rav block) I think planeswalkers are a big mistake for the game, especially casual. They are no fun to play against, and I often have 'no planeswalkers' in the description.
Many direct damage spells aren't big enough (remember that planeswalkers effectively have starting loyalty+1 as the + ability is used right away). You can't attack effectively into them since many of them pump out chump blockers. The Oblivion Ring solution at common is now weaker due to Quasali Pridemage.
Disappointed that they are here to stay in M10. There needs to be more cards that really punish playing planeswalkers.