It's actually completely normal for prices to fall like that. It happens with every set as the set gets ready to rotate out of Standard. The real interesting information will be in 12 months, when we see the impact that rotating out of Extended and into Classic only will have on the IPA/OTJ/7ED cards...
Nice job on this one. Like you, I'm one of those guys with a limited budget who attempts to build semi-competitive decks with underrated cards. I like the problem solving logic you used as well as the way this article speaks to the budget audience.
While it would strain the mana base, I like the idea of using Research/Development to put 4 select cards back into your library. The 60-card minimum is in place to guard against quick combos, so I would imagine that something could be done with a dream library of hand-picked cards.
Again, nice job. I'll be looking for your articles in the future. =)
I, too, am upset about the division between the paper and online communities.. I love playing in prereleases, sealed events and drafts in real life and I love constructed online.. online has helped my offline play much more. I notice that I am a much better player because I play both.. I understand the rules a lot better then I did before I played online...
the prices falling for cards is a little scary... I mean I love picking up good cards for cheap (relatively) but anyways..
I like the Mishra suggestion. I've got an article coming up that mentions my own Mishra deck.
Also, I was thinking that Tel-Jilad Stylus might work out pretty well in this deck. If you're stuck with no library and need to draw a card, you can use the stylus to put a land or the stylus itself on the bottom of your library (which would then become a one-card library) at the end of your upkeep so that you have something to draw. With Pandemonium out, you could also put the Leveler on the bottom of your library and the draw it again to do another 10 damage.
Riftsweeper might work really well with this deck, too. With your library removed from the game, you could cast Riftsweeper to cherry-pick any card that Leveler removed from the game and put it right into your library. If you combined this with Tel-Jilad Stylus, you could potentially keep replaying Riftsweeper and your favorite cards.
One card to consider if you want to make it a combo kill would be Mishra, Artificer Prodigy. It may stretch the mana base in the deck you have now too far though. Just another way to go with the Leveler/Pandemonium thought though.
I think this can be improved in terms of lowering the cost and still achieve the same thing / even better.
1. you don't need witness. you can use reclaim/recollect, much cheaper. yes you've 1 less chump blocker but you can find other ways to get defense.
2. essence warden. no need with so few creatures. instead replace them with 4 copies of pyroclasm. that would help you clean up the board before leveler comes or before leveler needs to attack.
3. words of wilding, i'd replace 2 of them with words of war, more diversity there is good, in case opponents have ways to stop creature attack.
4. zealot again no need. it's very slow, 4 mana to do less than creeping mold, and easily killed before opponents' killer enchantments/artifacts come down. naturalize would be good enough
5. add 1 warhammer, replace 1 reito with it. it's good for you, get you trample and gain life in case you're beat down pretty bad before leveler comes down. can even equip to elder for some life gain.
There were card links in the headers, I removed them for one reason, Gatherer was sending back error messages, and until we get Lorwyn in our system, it may have to be like that a little while longer. I'll get on the guy who handles that :)
I liked it, and particularly enjoyed the thresh deck, as, well, it plays green and green is good. I realize that's not exactly scientific reasoning, but so what.
The percentage shows how much you'd have to increase it to get it back to what it was last week. Meaning that Card | % | Price means that you'd have to multiply the price of this weeks card against the percentage (to the positive) to get what it was. I'll add in a more normal view of those cards though, since I can see where the current version is a bit more abstract.
I'm really wondering when we'll see Vampiric Tutor on the decreasing price list. It seems odd that it has lost maybe 5% of it's value post restriction.
I think that some of your percentage cost changes might be off somewhat. Any decrease of 100 percent would make the card free (and 140%, for example, would mean that you'd be paid to take the card). As another example, if I remember correctly, Goblin King was going for about 50 cents and now it's going for a dollar. That's not a 50 percent increase; it's a 100 percent increase.
and I tried my hardest to get the tables to move, but I could not, with out the scroll issue.
It's actually completely normal for prices to fall like that. It happens with every set as the set gets ready to rotate out of Standard. The real interesting information will be in 12 months, when we see the impact that rotating out of Extended and into Classic only will have on the IPA/OTJ/7ED cards...
Nice job on this one. Like you, I'm one of those guys with a limited budget who attempts to build semi-competitive decks with underrated cards. I like the problem solving logic you used as well as the way this article speaks to the budget audience.
While it would strain the mana base, I like the idea of using Research/Development to put 4 select cards back into your library. The 60-card minimum is in place to guard against quick combos, so I would imagine that something could be done with a dream library of hand-picked cards.
Again, nice job. I'll be looking for your articles in the future. =)
nice interview..
I, too, am upset about the division between the paper and online communities.. I love playing in prereleases, sealed events and drafts in real life and I love constructed online.. online has helped my offline play much more. I notice that I am a much better player because I play both.. I understand the rules a lot better then I did before I played online...
the prices falling for cards is a little scary... I mean I love picking up good cards for cheap (relatively) but anyways..
thanks for keeping us updated.
Sorry, but I can't even read the story in this format.
What Rob Said.
The problem is that the the tables are set to be too wide. They should be made shorter, and longer if you need more space.
Finally newfoundland appears as a magic card! Man i miss home, nice to see at least one more newfie on mtgo! Good article, cool cards!
Not sure why, but the story is so wide that I have to scroll left and right to read it. Can someone maybe fix the formatting?
I like the Mishra suggestion. I've got an article coming up that mentions my own Mishra deck.
Also, I was thinking that Tel-Jilad Stylus might work out pretty well in this deck. If you're stuck with no library and need to draw a card, you can use the stylus to put a land or the stylus itself on the bottom of your library (which would then become a one-card library) at the end of your upkeep so that you have something to draw. With Pandemonium out, you could also put the Leveler on the bottom of your library and the draw it again to do another 10 damage.
Riftsweeper might work really well with this deck, too. With your library removed from the game, you could cast Riftsweeper to cherry-pick any card that Leveler removed from the game and put it right into your library. If you combined this with Tel-Jilad Stylus, you could potentially keep replaying Riftsweeper and your favorite cards.
One card to consider if you want to make it a combo kill would be Mishra, Artificer Prodigy. It may stretch the mana base in the deck you have now too far though. Just another way to go with the Leveler/Pandemonium thought though.
Cards are on MTGO Traders, just no autocarding or prices yet so have to manually link. That is what I've been doing.
And you should have seen the other picture I considered using...
I think this can be improved in terms of lowering the cost and still achieve the same thing / even better.
1. you don't need witness. you can use reclaim/recollect, much cheaper. yes you've 1 less chump blocker but you can find other ways to get defense.
2. essence warden. no need with so few creatures. instead replace them with 4 copies of pyroclasm. that would help you clean up the board before leveler comes or before leveler needs to attack.
3. words of wilding, i'd replace 2 of them with words of war, more diversity there is good, in case opponents have ways to stop creature attack.
4. zealot again no need. it's very slow, 4 mana to do less than creeping mold, and easily killed before opponents' killer enchantments/artifacts come down. naturalize would be good enough
5. add 1 warhammer, replace 1 reito with it. it's good for you, get you trample and gain life in case you're beat down pretty bad before leveler comes down. can even equip to elder for some life gain.
Very nice article. Well written and a nice design.
Nice article IA, but I must say - you are one goofy looking dude ;) Haha, just kidding
Links added back
The links worked, Gatherer was just down when you checked them. Its been going down a lot lately.
There were card links in the headers, I removed them for one reason, Gatherer was sending back error messages, and until we get Lorwyn in our system, it may have to be like that a little while longer. I'll get on the guy who handles that :)
Good article. You really should use cardlinks in the headers, though, makes it easier on the readers since the set is so new.
I liked it, and particularly enjoyed the thresh deck, as, well, it plays green and green is good. I realize that's not exactly scientific reasoning, but so what.
Hi,
Wandered over here from the official boards. Nice article, thanks for the effort!
The percentage shows how much you'd have to increase it to get it back to what it was last week. Meaning that Card | % | Price means that you'd have to multiply the price of this weeks card against the percentage (to the positive) to get what it was. I'll add in a more normal view of those cards though, since I can see where the current version is a bit more abstract.
~Erik
Solid report as we've come to expect :)
I'm really wondering when we'll see Vampiric Tutor on the decreasing price list. It seems odd that it has lost maybe 5% of it's value post restriction.
I think that some of your percentage cost changes might be off somewhat. Any decrease of 100 percent would make the card free (and 140%, for example, would mean that you'd be paid to take the card). As another example, if I remember correctly, Goblin King was going for about 50 cents and now it's going for a dollar. That's not a 50 percent increase; it's a 100 percent increase.
Looks a lot better, thanks for cleaning it up. Looking forward to any feedback people may have!