I'm glad to see I won, and congrats to the other participants. I agree that the scoring system was flawed but their will be complaints no matter WHAT scoring system is chosen I think. Honestly, I think a pure "points-based" system from the tournament's points would maybe be the best plan, although I dunno about using TBs from diff tournies... I think adding playoffs in the event of ties in points would be pretty exciting (in my mind at least). Thanks again everyone!
First off, I would like to say that I think this kind of "side action" added to MTGO is very fun. The idea of the mono-black build was good, i think it really will bring out the deck-building abilities and play styles of a player in this format. No, mono-black will not be a tier-one deck, but that's kinda the point isn't it? I had built a deck to play in this format, but sadly with only the few days open with enrty possibilities and the fact that I live on the other side of the world (PE times are not always favourable) I was not able to participate.
As for future "challenges" how about not only budget, but put some real restrictions on here, maybe pauper? this might make it impossible to winn even a single game, much less a round though, but it could be altered, pauper + Xmount of uncommons, i dont know. Prizing for this could be simple and relatively cheap. 4 x common set of your choice, again just an idea. How about one of the weaker tribe decks, knights, druids, archers, where a certain % of the cards have to be from that tribe.
[quote]For example, if you put a creature hit with Swords to Plowshares in the graveyard, instead of removing it from the game, your opponent should call a judg[/quote]
You can still keep v2 on your computer if you like, but to many the extra space may be an issue. Both v2 and v3 eat up about 860 Megs each.
Considering that all the offline functions in v2 are replicated in v3 the only reason to keep v2 would be to deckbuild during the downtime or for an aethetic preference. But since you must use v3 to play, my feeling is you might as well get used to using it.
Maybe you could write an article about some of the features. I did not know about the zoom and the chatbox thing. I cant wait to try that. I cant stand the docking station.
Definitely by points instead of rank. I achieved that 15th place in a 7 round tourney by losing everything but 6th round, where I got a bye, and just refusing to drop. This way it is just too random how many players with more points than you will drop after missing T8 (in that tourney for example, two guys with more points dropped even after the last round). Just think of the irony that I only placed two positions better by playing 3-3 after a strong 3-1 start.
And the bribery issue would be not much different than how it is now. But as I wrote in the original comments, 5-2 is most likely a greater achievement than 3-0-2 (which basically is 3-1-1 anyway, because you are free to play and lose one round there and will reach T8 anyway).
I think the good thing about the contest is that all three deck types were build and played. Maybe you could plan to add a summary section at the end where you sum up the results compared to the meta and what conclusions players interested in the contest matter and decks should draw. And try to give the whole recap a bit more structure, the comments under the decks vary wildly in usefulness.
I like the idea of scoring based on 3 for a win, 1 for a draw. It definately gives anyone who makes T8 an advantage, since they will be playing at least one extra round, and hopefully three.
ummm maybe i missed something here, but i've been gone for about 6 months, i've been playing MTGO since it was first Beta, am i going to have to buy this game all over again? if so Magic can kiss my a$$ and reimburse me for the cards i have bought and cannot use any longer.
Disgruntled MTGO player
Nice way to scam more money from your customers Wizards.
Certainly an interview and decklist is interesting and I thought you asked some good questions but I'm not sure why this guy is so aloof. He doesn't need to act like he's cool he's being interviewed about a magic deck and we're all reading about it so we won't either.
I suppose some of the answers "are obvious" but maybe he could let the readers decide that instead of making the decision for us.
Arn, this came to me a few hours ago. Instead of a bigger prize as an incentive, how about the same scope of prize, but a cheaper deck?
This may mean sacrificing the "Mono" part of the challenge, but I think the idea of top eighting an event with a budget deck would be brilliant and might be easier for many people to do!
My suggestion for scoring on the next contest would be to use the DCI point system - so a win gets 3 points, a loss 0 points, and a draw 1 point. This would make it easier for big tourneys to win. Or possibly a modified version (1 point for a round loss?). It would make it easier because smaller tournaments have less games. Ties can be solved by.. tiebreakers of the actual PE that they were in I would suggest. It's hard to come up with a good across-the-board one though, especially with the variability of decks and such.
I'm glad to see I won, and congrats to the other participants. I agree that the scoring system was flawed but their will be complaints no matter WHAT scoring system is chosen I think. Honestly, I think a pure "points-based" system from the tournament's points would maybe be the best plan, although I dunno about using TBs from diff tournies... I think adding playoffs in the event of ties in points would be pretty exciting (in my mind at least). Thanks again everyone!
Interesting article! Well written too. Was an enjoyable read on a format I had no idea existed. You sir, deserve a churro.
thanx for the guide.. it's slightly different from v2 so it's really helpful if you can just refer to the guide when installing.. =)
I love you too, oh anonymous one. :)
My voice is meh, but I do love to type. So I guess it'd be closer to:
'Is this the same guy that likes the reading of his own words on the Wizards board ???'
And the answer would be: 'yes'. :D
For those confused... click on the big red link named 'down'. ;)
@anonymous: Considering that you are unable to actually spot the real article and are also unable to actually use your nickname.
@Hammy: Nicely done.
Is this the same guy that likes the sound of his own voice on the Wizards board ???
Nicely done :)
First off, I would like to say that I think this kind of "side action" added to MTGO is very fun. The idea of the mono-black build was good, i think it really will bring out the deck-building abilities and play styles of a player in this format. No, mono-black will not be a tier-one deck, but that's kinda the point isn't it? I had built a deck to play in this format, but sadly with only the few days open with enrty possibilities and the fact that I live on the other side of the world (PE times are not always favourable) I was not able to participate.
As for future "challenges" how about not only budget, but put some real restrictions on here, maybe pauper? this might make it impossible to winn even a single game, much less a round though, but it could be altered, pauper + Xmount of uncommons, i dont know. Prizing for this could be simple and relatively cheap. 4 x common set of your choice, again just an idea. How about one of the weaker tribe decks, knights, druids, archers, where a certain % of the cards have to be from that tribe.
Anyway, keep up the good work!
[quote]For example, if you put a creature hit with Swords to Plowshares in the graveyard, instead of removing it from the game, your opponent should call a judg[/quote]
my opponent would not wake up the next morning
You can still keep v2 on your computer if you like, but to many the extra space may be an issue. Both v2 and v3 eat up about 860 Megs each.
Considering that all the offline functions in v2 are replicated in v3 the only reason to keep v2 would be to deckbuild during the downtime or for an aethetic preference. But since you must use v3 to play, my feeling is you might as well get used to using it.
What is the value of uninstalling version 2 at this point?
With sealed I understand this in full and wish that the events I've gone to did this step.
There are seriously some sanctioned drafts in which you play other peoples' selected card pools? That's messed up.
Maybe you could write an article about some of the features. I did not know about the zoom and the chatbox thing. I cant wait to try that. I cant stand the docking station.
Informative and humorous! I would love to have a deck of clay tablets...
Very well written! As much as the lag and crashes on MTGO v2.5 are annoying, all of the areas written about here are SO much easier on-line.
Great article, I don't have the creativity and skill needed to create interesting balanced/cards, but I love seeing people who do.
I really did like Jutting Peak, I could see it being printed one day!
I thought about that idea too. A "budget" challenge article.
The only thing I need now is participants and a prize. Anyone else be interested in this idea? What would be a good prize to offer?
Definitely by points instead of rank. I achieved that 15th place in a 7 round tourney by losing everything but 6th round, where I got a bye, and just refusing to drop. This way it is just too random how many players with more points than you will drop after missing T8 (in that tourney for example, two guys with more points dropped even after the last round). Just think of the irony that I only placed two positions better by playing 3-3 after a strong 3-1 start.
And the bribery issue would be not much different than how it is now. But as I wrote in the original comments, 5-2 is most likely a greater achievement than 3-0-2 (which basically is 3-1-1 anyway, because you are free to play and lose one round there and will reach T8 anyway).
I think the good thing about the contest is that all three deck types were build and played. Maybe you could plan to add a summary section at the end where you sum up the results compared to the meta and what conclusions players interested in the contest matter and decks should draw. And try to give the whole recap a bit more structure, the comments under the decks vary wildly in usefulness.
I like the idea of scoring based on 3 for a win, 1 for a draw. It definately gives anyone who makes T8 an advantage, since they will be playing at least one extra round, and hopefully three.
ummm maybe i missed something here, but i've been gone for about 6 months, i've been playing MTGO since it was first Beta, am i going to have to buy this game all over again? if so Magic can kiss my a$$ and reimburse me for the cards i have bought and cannot use any longer.
Disgruntled MTGO player
Nice way to scam more money from your customers Wizards.
Certainly an interview and decklist is interesting and I thought you asked some good questions but I'm not sure why this guy is so aloof. He doesn't need to act like he's cool he's being interviewed about a magic deck and we're all reading about it so we won't either.
I suppose some of the answers "are obvious" but maybe he could let the readers decide that instead of making the decision for us.
Arn, this came to me a few hours ago. Instead of a bigger prize as an incentive, how about the same scope of prize, but a cheaper deck?
This may mean sacrificing the "Mono" part of the challenge, but I think the idea of top eighting an event with a budget deck would be brilliant and might be easier for many people to do!
Congrats walker!
My suggestion for scoring on the next contest would be to use the DCI point system - so a win gets 3 points, a loss 0 points, and a draw 1 point. This would make it easier for big tourneys to win. Or possibly a modified version (1 point for a round loss?). It would make it easier because smaller tournaments have less games. Ties can be solved by.. tiebreakers of the actual PE that they were in I would suggest. It's hard to come up with a good across-the-board one though, especially with the variability of decks and such.