thank you ibanez_bw i know he used "obvious" alot but with a deck like U/G Tempo it's a real tight play deck not much more you can do but the obvious moves and plays. I talked to konkhra about it and he agreed if it was another deck list he would of put more detail in his anwsers. But it's still kinda hit or miss some people know they can put in alot of detail and chose not to me as a writer i can't really complain beggers cant be choosers:P and all the information they give and the decklists it still is a good articles plus their thoughts and feedback is always win win thank you for reading my articles and i will always try to bring everyone really good ones every week
Wish he didn't answer everything with "It's obvious." Cool deck, though. Thanks for this series, Salgy, but this one isn't one of the strongest (through no fault of your own!).
I'm thrilled everyone enjoyed the analysis! You've all been entered into a free drawing for a Churro. (That is, if I can hunt down a Churro stand in the United Kingdom. If all else fails, I will cook a Churro from scratch. I am dead serious. I am sending this Churro)
Zonko: I think it is to some extent. If you go to the tournament center and click on the limited pro tours (Kuala Lumpur), they have a nifty feature called "Draft Viewer" (or something like that.) It provides a pick by pick for each person on the table. The problem is, that's generally the only situation when it's been applied. I don't think anyone has done the same for an "average draft". It'd be interesting to see how much impact a rare drafter or a new player has on say, an 8-4. "Hmm... that might be an idea"
Gabriel: Thanks, I love Churros too. Especially the ones from CostCo's/Kirkland. Man, I would kill to have one of those again... and their Chicken Bakes.
Anon: Thanks, I love Coldsnap as wel! They took away my CSP leagues though ;_; I need my fix.
Hollow: I wouldn't have sided them out, I think had you had two in your opening hand, you would have done extremely well since most of his creatures were one or two toughness. I think with your deck, you could have run 15 lands, even 14, but that might be pushing it. Personally, I run less since I prefer playing more spells than my opponent over consistency.
Erham and Shard: Thanks :)
Anon: Glad you enjoyed it! I think that most skilled drafters would have spotted the blue decks. I think a lot of new player's may lean toward's Clone's of Kev's deck. It's very difficult as a new player to appreciate the importance of removal. I know I still stand confused when Rich Hoaen picks Nameless Inversion over something like Marsh Flitter or a high-power rare.
I know that it stupidly uses the snow mana first for the non-snow portion, but if you tap your Urza's Factory first, then the Snow Island it should work properly.
Just pay for the mana while playing the ability, don't float it in your pool first.
Great article. I picked the final table and the outcome of that table. It's weird. Everyone knows that green is the best colour, but blue is the second best colour (blue always seems to be the best or second best in limited). So with only two blue drafters I'm not at all surprised that those two decks made the finals.
Just like if there had only been 2 green drafters, those two decks should make the finals.
im honestly shocked "bob" didnt win his deck looked amazing...man its been almost two years since i drafted coldsnap..those were the days..lol Anyways good read MM and no i wont beat you with a bat...
1) Kudos for the idea, but next time you should let it run for at least 1 week imho.
2) The bug that prevents you from paying for the activated abilities of Scrying Sheets, Phyrexian Ironfoot and Mouth of Ronom with colorless mana really weakens the deck and can be game-deciding. Is there any way to get arround that ? Because this way Desert and Factory really are devalued.
3) I reached the semis of an 8-man, does that count too ? I bet thats the best anyone has done so far, cause 75% of the matchups are horrible (Faeries, Blink, Burn, etc). Seems like 90% are going with either Faeries or Blink Variants where you will lose so often, even after boarding.
.. I sided two of them out during sideboarding, but it didn't help much to add more removal since I lost to a near god-hand of my opponent with a manaflood on my side. Yes, after taking lands out. >_<
It's good to see you writing again, Hollow! It's always fun to see your decks and I think MTGO really needs more 'casual game' focus. We have lots of focus on tournaments and stuff, but not nearly the amount of focus on casual that I'd like to see. :)
thank you ibanez_bw i know he used "obvious" alot but with a deck like U/G Tempo it's a real tight play deck not much more you can do but the obvious moves and plays. I talked to konkhra about it and he agreed if it was another deck list he would of put more detail in his anwsers. But it's still kinda hit or miss some people know they can put in alot of detail and chose not to me as a writer i can't really complain beggers cant be choosers:P and all the information they give and the decklists it still is a good articles plus their thoughts and feedback is always win win thank you for reading my articles and i will always try to bring everyone really good ones every week
Wish he didn't answer everything with "It's obvious." Cool deck, though. Thanks for this series, Salgy, but this one isn't one of the strongest (through no fault of your own!).
Good to see someone write a casual article now and again.
isnt maralen on the fence?
i mean if your ahead by even 1 life point i see it as a good card.
Ok, thanks for that information. I guess I have to check my settings then, because that was not possible in the games I played so far.
Whoever made that movie owes me four bucks and some chesse flavored popcorn.
I'm thrilled everyone enjoyed the analysis! You've all been entered into a free drawing for a Churro. (That is, if I can hunt down a Churro stand in the United Kingdom. If all else fails, I will cook a Churro from scratch. I am dead serious. I am sending this Churro)
Zonko: I think it is to some extent. If you go to the tournament center and click on the limited pro tours (Kuala Lumpur), they have a nifty feature called "Draft Viewer" (or something like that.) It provides a pick by pick for each person on the table. The problem is, that's generally the only situation when it's been applied. I don't think anyone has done the same for an "average draft". It'd be interesting to see how much impact a rare drafter or a new player has on say, an 8-4. "Hmm... that might be an idea"
Gabriel: Thanks, I love Churros too. Especially the ones from CostCo's/Kirkland. Man, I would kill to have one of those again... and their Chicken Bakes.
Anon: Thanks, I love Coldsnap as wel! They took away my CSP leagues though ;_; I need my fix.
Hollow: I wouldn't have sided them out, I think had you had two in your opening hand, you would have done extremely well since most of his creatures were one or two toughness. I think with your deck, you could have run 15 lands, even 14, but that might be pushing it. Personally, I run less since I prefer playing more spells than my opponent over consistency.
Erham and Shard: Thanks :)
Anon: Glad you enjoyed it! I think that most skilled drafters would have spotted the blue decks. I think a lot of new player's may lean toward's Clone's of Kev's deck. It's very difficult as a new player to appreciate the importance of removal. I know I still stand confused when Rich Hoaen picks Nameless Inversion over something like Marsh Flitter or a high-power rare.
I might be missing something, but what bug?
I know that it stupidly uses the snow mana first for the non-snow portion, but if you tap your Urza's Factory first, then the Snow Island it should work properly.
Just pay for the mana while playing the ability, don't float it in your pool first.
Great article. I picked the final table and the outcome of that table. It's weird. Everyone knows that green is the best colour, but blue is the second best colour (blue always seems to be the best or second best in limited). So with only two blue drafters I'm not at all surprised that those two decks made the finals.
Just like if there had only been 2 green drafters, those two decks should make the finals.
Great analysis, thanks for doing this.
im honestly shocked "bob" didnt win his deck looked amazing...man its been almost two years since i drafted coldsnap..those were the days..lol Anyways good read MM and no i wont beat you with a bat...
1) Kudos for the idea, but next time you should let it run for at least 1 week imho.
2) The bug that prevents you from paying for the activated abilities of Scrying Sheets, Phyrexian Ironfoot and Mouth of Ronom with colorless mana really weakens the deck and can be game-deciding. Is there any way to get arround that ? Because this way Desert and Factory really are devalued.
3) I reached the semis of an 8-man, does that count too ? I bet thats the best anyone has done so far, cause 75% of the matchups are horrible (Faeries, Blink, Burn, etc). Seems like 90% are going with either Faeries or Blink Variants where you will lose so often, even after boarding.
Yes, I liked how you examined the whole table. Keep up the good work.
.. I sided two of them out during sideboarding, but it didn't help much to add more removal since I lost to a near god-hand of my opponent with a manaflood on my side. Yes, after taking lands out. >_<
Awesome article! Great analysis, CSP is crazy to watch, and screenshots get me into the game! All round good stuffs!!
Just commenting cause I love the Churros!
Good article too :)
no BaCCoon=Shardfenix is a sad panda
I was just thinking that it might be useful to include Dreadship Reef in some control decks for profane command etc..
Im working 16 hour days for the next 5 days or id definity try to get in on this contest. C'est La Vie
"Woe, Woe upon all the inhabitants of MTGO, for the time of Darkness has come!"
Too funny...
bacoooon : (
Where's the BaCooN!?
It's good to see you writing again, Hollow! It's always fun to see your decks and I think MTGO really needs more 'casual game' focus. We have lots of focus on tournaments and stuff, but not nearly the amount of focus on casual that I'd like to see. :)
D'oh! My bad, Hollow! I thought I had added that in. :(
I'll fix that up ASAP. :)
~Erik
Every week I wait for Friday to come just so I can read your article. Nice job.
Ernham djinn
... you forgot to mention a bug I found again, Bushido is borked, on Kenzo the Hardhearted its not triggering. Maybe on other cards as well.
/me event tried to tell you not to forget this in client.... T_T