Helm+RIP is a 2-card combo, with Enlightened Tutor being redundant copies of either. Worldgorger, as we've seen, is essentially 4 cards. Worldgorger, actually involves a creature. In the two games of the finals I saw, "Beasts" won with Helm+RIP without a single beast on the board. Worldgorger is disruptable by Wasteland, counterspells, instant-speed removal, instant-speed enchantment removal, graveyard hate, and even etb lifegain triggers (Auriok Champion, Essence Warden, etc.). Helm/Line is susceptible to counterspells, instant-speed enchantment removal, and Pithing Needle effects only. Sure, Dragon can cost as low as 2 mana, where the Helm/Line turn is usually 4-5 mana, but by the time Dragon is usually set up the actual turn number is probably easily negligible. Helm/RIP is extremely streamlined and can use its slots for searching and/or removal, as the designer deems best.
I'm NOT asking for a Helm/RiP ban. I am saying that leaving a Dragon banning over this is hypocritical.
I'm sure I'll come to regret saying this if I ever have to face the deck but I tend to agree with Bazaar. It might well be too powerful and deserving of the ban but to do it after only a single event seems way too hasty to me.
The judges should obviously not be ordered to rewind all or nothing, partial fixes are imperative in situations like these.
....the mtg judging must go back to how it was 20 years ago, when scouting wasnt legal, when concessions werent legal outside those which obviously didnt harm the tournament integrity, when partial fixes ruled, when they couldnt figure out banding....
....banding probably was what twisted their minds, and started all those new horrible rules and practices, banding was hard, but it was possible to figure out, I know because I knew what was correct.
I'm not a big fan of the Worldgorger ban. It defeated two other combo decks, and 0 instant-speed removal cards in five rounds. It lost four games in five rounds. Whoever doesn't like the combo iteration doesn't have to watch; the opponents can concede at their leisure once the loop is demonstrated. The combo is disruptable by any instant-speed graveyard or creature removal or counterspell, or Wasteland (at least where Marsh is concerned). It needs access to one of four Dragons, one of eight graveyard-access spells (or discard to hand size), one of eight reanimate spells, and one of five combo kills (Marsh and/or Oona). It also has to utilize several other slow, janky cards within the Nightmare tribe. That's not exactly super consistent, even though the winner prevailed this time. There are much more consistent combos available, even in Underdog. Bans in regular and Pure (where Entomb is banned and Oona is off-tribe) are even harder to understand. :/
* Slots are not set in stone other than the following rules:
....* A Standard common/uncommon will never show up in the first slot.
....* Play Points only show up in the first slot.
* Slots are ordered from most to least likely, so the value of Slot 1 will probably be overrepresented compared to the stats.
* When I'm calculating the value of cards, my cutoff is a fairly low 0.1 tickets, and prices are MTGOTraders sell prices with the exception of the new PZ2 cards (the Monarch cards), as they haven't been updated here as of press time due to lack of supply.
Thanks for fixing the end font changes though; I normally catch those but rushed the end (and almost forgot that paragraph).
A lot more in common besides deckbuilding as well, given that one of the first oblique references I ever got on the mothership site was when I submitted Handel's Messiah to Mark Gottlieb's acrostic deckbuilding challenge back in '03.
( http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/how-dare-you-2-2003... for reference.)
2100 ELO in chess is not horrible lol. I think I might have gotten to about 1900 if I played chess tourneys at my peak of that game. It isn't great if you aim to be a grandmaster but for the average chess player that's still in the top 1% I think.
208.1. A creature card has two numbers separated by a slash printed in its lower right corner. The first number is its power (the amount of damage it deals in combat); the second is its toughness (the amount of damage needed to destroy it). For example, 2/3 means the object has power 2 and toughness 3. Power and toughness can be modified or set to particular values by effects.
I hereby denounce you as a liar, trying to deliberately mislead people in this matter.
So, now we know you are trolling and just plain stupid. Yes, personal insult. I so wish someone would ban you from the website just so we don't have to put up with your inane rambling and waste our time with you any more.
It says in CR 208.1.b; - the game an it's environment must only be hostile towards individuals 12 years old and younger, no member or gender of any nationality above this age can be offended in any way different than in the way of rules disputes as spoken of in this document.
From the current spoilers, it looks like there will be no cards with the creature type "Troll" in the Amonkhet set. I guess Nicol Bolas didn't have any desire to feed the trolls on his plane.
Helm+RIP is a 2-card combo, with Enlightened Tutor being redundant copies of either. Worldgorger, as we've seen, is essentially 4 cards. Worldgorger, actually involves a creature. In the two games of the finals I saw, "Beasts" won with Helm+RIP without a single beast on the board. Worldgorger is disruptable by Wasteland, counterspells, instant-speed removal, instant-speed enchantment removal, graveyard hate, and even etb lifegain triggers (Auriok Champion, Essence Warden, etc.). Helm/Line is susceptible to counterspells, instant-speed enchantment removal, and Pithing Needle effects only. Sure, Dragon can cost as low as 2 mana, where the Helm/Line turn is usually 4-5 mana, but by the time Dragon is usually set up the actual turn number is probably easily negligible. Helm/RIP is extremely streamlined and can use its slots for searching and/or removal, as the designer deems best.
I'm NOT asking for a Helm/RiP ban. I am saying that leaving a Dragon banning over this is hypocritical.
I'm sure I'll come to regret saying this if I ever have to face the deck but I tend to agree with Bazaar. It might well be too powerful and deserving of the ban but to do it after only a single event seems way too hasty to me.
The judges should obviously not be ordered to rewind all or nothing, partial fixes are imperative in situations like these.
....the mtg judging must go back to how it was 20 years ago, when scouting wasnt legal, when concessions werent legal outside those which obviously didnt harm the tournament integrity, when partial fixes ruled, when they couldnt figure out banding....
....banding probably was what twisted their minds, and started all those new horrible rules and practices, banding was hard, but it was possible to figure out, I know because I knew what was correct.
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I'm not a big fan of the Worldgorger ban. It defeated two other combo decks, and 0 instant-speed removal cards in five rounds. It lost four games in five rounds. Whoever doesn't like the combo iteration doesn't have to watch; the opponents can concede at their leisure once the loop is demonstrated. The combo is disruptable by any instant-speed graveyard or creature removal or counterspell, or Wasteland (at least where Marsh is concerned). It needs access to one of four Dragons, one of eight graveyard-access spells (or discard to hand size), one of eight reanimate spells, and one of five combo kills (Marsh and/or Oona). It also has to utilize several other slow, janky cards within the Nightmare tribe. That's not exactly super consistent, even though the winner prevailed this time. There are much more consistent combos available, even in Underdog. Bans in regular and Pure (where Entomb is banned and Oona is off-tribe) are even harder to understand. :/
What did they look like before the fix? I will try and look into it.
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Fixed during the update.
Thanks! :)
Fixed, sorry about that.
The hover script ate my bulleted lists again :(
* Slots are not set in stone other than the following rules:
....* A Standard common/uncommon will never show up in the first slot.
....* Play Points only show up in the first slot.
* Slots are ordered from most to least likely, so the value of Slot 1 will probably be overrepresented compared to the stats.
* When I'm calculating the value of cards, my cutoff is a fairly low 0.1 tickets, and prices are MTGOTraders sell prices with the exception of the new PZ2 cards (the Monarch cards), as they haven't been updated here as of press time due to lack of supply.
Thanks for fixing the end font changes though; I normally catch those but rushed the end (and almost forgot that paragraph).
A lot more in common besides deckbuilding as well, given that one of the first oblique references I ever got on the mothership site was when I submitted Handel's Messiah to Mark Gottlieb's acrostic deckbuilding challenge back in '03.
( http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/how-dare-you-2-2003... for reference.)
Good interview!
2100 ELO in chess is not horrible lol. I think I might have gotten to about 1900 if I played chess tourneys at my peak of that game. It isn't great if you aim to be a grandmaster but for the average chess player that's still in the top 1% I think.
Good interview. :D
You don't know what denounce means, and you haven't brought forth any relevant information at all.
I hereby denounce myself as a good internet writer, bringing relevant information to as many as possible.
Here is a link to the comprehensive rules.
http://media.wizards.com/2017/downloads/MagicCompRules_20170119.txt
Here is the text of CR 208.1
208.1. A creature card has two numbers separated by a slash printed in its lower right corner. The first number is its power (the amount of damage it deals in combat); the second is its toughness (the amount of damage needed to destroy it). For example, 2/3 means the object has power 2 and toughness 3. Power and toughness can be modified or set to particular values by effects.
I hereby denounce you as a liar, trying to deliberately mislead people in this matter.
You do, because I'm pretty sure that the comprehensive rules section that you quoted deals with the power and toughness of creatures.
Again please stop.
I do not troll.
So, now we know you are trolling and just plain stupid. Yes, personal insult. I so wish someone would ban you from the website just so we don't have to put up with your inane rambling and waste our time with you any more.
It says in CR 208.1.b; - the game an it's environment must only be hostile towards individuals 12 years old and younger, no member or gender of any nationality above this age can be offended in any way different than in the way of rules disputes as spoken of in this document.
So, when the cr says it is so it is so, not ?
From the current spoilers, it looks like there will be no cards with the creature type "Troll" in the Amonkhet set. I guess Nicol Bolas didn't have any desire to feed the trolls on his plane.
Hearts must be devastated.
I'm sorry, you need to quit with this. You're being incredibly obtuse, and it's like you're trying to troll.
There is evidence from women sharing their experiences.
If it were one or two, sure, fine you might have a point.
It's not one or two, it's Legion, it's a lot of people saying that they have been treated poorly during Magic.
Denying this is like saying the earth is flat.
It's not fun, it's not clever, and you're wrong.