Not many other sites have deck databases set up and other than the T8 lists on WotCs site MyMTGO probably has the largest collection of decks for this format.
I also have a thread both in the 100 Card Singleton Group on the WotC Boards and the 100 Card Singleton Group on MyMTGO with links to the T8 lists for the entire history of 100 Card Singleton PEs.
Great Article and I really like the grouping of cards for cost comparison.
Another deck type that I have been thinking about recently for budget players is Ub control. Most counterspells and black removal spells are very affordable, just as most burn is and the creatures don't have to cost a lot there either. This is actually probably the reason that you see many many more Ub or mono U control decks in the casual room than you see in PEs or in the TP room were those decks are more rare. This deck also has a very cheap manabase as it is similar to a Mono Red list with a green splash. Basically you remplace the Red with Blue equivalents and green with the black equivalents.
This helps give budget players who don't like aggro/burn another option.
Well really everything but the dragonfly picture is okay by me. The dragonfly is just silly imho. None of them knock my socks off as I said in my previous post but most of them are workman like and show the context of the card.
I think as long as you have the mentality that you are going to start off kind of slow you’ll be fine.
Singleton perfectly embodies the process of incremental growth. As your collection grows, so does your knowledge of card value and deck building imo.
I read one of Tarmotog’s articles introducing me to the format.
Started off as a Green/Red player since it was rather cheap to build/Pilot (Cheaper than you think actually). Ran maybe 4 non-basic lands and was pretty solid. Actually, it might have been Island Go’s deck list lol.
Then I became a Green/Black Rock player Singleton player and once my collection fleshed out so did my decks.
I added white into my deck for Doran I plopped down tix for a Vindicate.
Then blue splash for Gifts Ungiven came into the picture… then Zur the Enchanter came soon after which meant the purchase of Pernicious Deed.
One of the reasons why 100 Card Singleton is one of my favorite formats is that once you get 1 copy of the card… you’re done.
I really look forward to new releases because its fun deciding which single copy of a card I’m going to get.
Unless it’s a Masters Edition set (ugh… ) I typically only buy 3 or 4 cards with every new set. So that being said, the upkeep for singleton is rather cheap.
I have been doing a lot of playing around with the art files recently in the client. While I haven't really altered the art, I do enjoy switching to use various versions of the art. For example I like the Urza's Treetop art much better so I just swapped out the new versions art. Same with Demonic Tutor, City of Brass, Triskelion, Hymn to Tourach, and many other older cards.
The one thing I have customized is that I recently made full art dual lands, which is fairly easy to do if you are decent with graphics software, since the dual lands all have their own card frame file. The card frames get laid over top of the artwork in the client, so anything you edit on the frame will always show on top of the artwork in the client. Thus you can just put your image right into the frame file to get the image to take up the whole frame.
Tutors are a big topic, and yes I could write an article on tutoring.
Much of this format is built on tutors, despite the fact that the really good black tutors are banned. Combo, for instance would probably not be competitive without a sizeable number of tutors.
The reason I didn't delve into tutors is mainly a cost issue. When you start building your deck around tutors, you are generally looking at a more expensive deck.
I focused my attention on aggro/burn strategies in this article because those are generally the cheapest strategies overall.
As soon as you talk about tutors, especially blue tutors, you'll looking at playing Force of Will and Mana Drain.
Wizards posts decklists from the weekend challenges on their site, however it's really hard to get a feel for deck types by just looking at decklists.
A better option is to watch the replays after the weekend challenge tournaments. They only stay up for a couple of days, so you have to look at them close to when the actual event took place on Saturday or Sunday.
And of course PureMTGO has dozens of articles on 100 singleton in the archives.
1) I liked the article, but it was really wordy to be talking about essentially one deck. Perhaps more formatting would have helped.
2) Bitterblossom seems like a neat idea. Let us know how that plays out
3) Last and biggest one. This deck is supposed to hate on Dredge - hard. But the tourney results from the past week don't seem to have born that out. Dredge runs up 5 perfect tourneys and as you mentioned, we got one out of this deck early in the next week's worth. And, maybe I missed it, but I didn't actually see any part of the article where it performed against dredge.
While I realize this article was about this specific deck, I wouldn't put too much stock in the deck as a meta solution until the big boy (dredge) loses it's edge because of it. To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't be surprised to see any well-tuned (and I think you've done well with this deck) combo deck survive against the field in much the same manner. Perhaps your team could start looking and testing other decks to see if that is true - I would find that a much more interesting article.
Anonymously posting negatively is one of the most immature things one can do on an internet forum. What a loser. Bazaar has always been cordial, and I've played against him a number of times.
Whiffy, this article is a really great deck primer. Before FTV, I played a few dailies with UB Painter's Stone and just got destroyed (1-3, 0-2 drop, 0-2 drop). With Tinker, I added Darksteel (didn't even think to go with the evasive shrouded guy), but still didn't get great results. With the dominance of dredge, maindecking Leyline in just about any deck is a smart idea, making the singleton Helm a very smart play.
I think I'll toy with my build to add that aspect, and see if I get better results.
Some thoughts that I had and are included in my current build:
1. Singleton Crucible of Worlds paired with Strip Mine and 3 Wastelands - with more lands, Mox Diamond can come in as well
2. Enlightened Tutor - I only own 2, or I'd test all iterations - can get most of the win conditions and I'm in white
3. I also play with countermagic but I'm starting to think your version without it will be more consistent.
I love the deck! It sounds like fun not just assembling the combo, but also deciding which combo to go for. So many decisions! Like you said, definitely practice with it. The decklists certainly aren't obvious.
anything about art is by its nature highly subjective, and the whole article should be read with a big 'IMHO' in mind. Having said that, I think WotC have become a lot better at, as you say, matching the art to the card.
My problem with Mr Foglio is that he is inconsistent, and often seems to go for the cheap laugh when he is capable of much more. Check out Conch Horn or Runed Arch to see what the guy can do when he tries. Then have a look at Cloud Pirates or (especially) Recycle to see what he puts out when he's just going through the motions.
As for Giant Growth, I'd be interested in knowing which version knocked your socks off.
One player at the prerelease I attended in Saint Louis opened a Volcanic Island. Pretty sweet looking.
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Soltarmi .... ok that one cheating
Aqua Plains Drifters..... ok another cheat
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Not many other sites have deck databases set up and other than the T8 lists on WotCs site MyMTGO probably has the largest collection of decks for this format.
I also have a thread both in the 100 Card Singleton Group on the WotC Boards and the 100 Card Singleton Group on MyMTGO with links to the T8 lists for the entire history of 100 Card Singleton PEs.
Also on the upkeep note cards never rotate like standard, so once you have a card you don't have to replace it due to rotation.
Great Article and I really like the grouping of cards for cost comparison.
Another deck type that I have been thinking about recently for budget players is Ub control. Most counterspells and black removal spells are very affordable, just as most burn is and the creatures don't have to cost a lot there either. This is actually probably the reason that you see many many more Ub or mono U control decks in the casual room than you see in PEs or in the TP room were those decks are more rare. This deck also has a very cheap manabase as it is similar to a Mono Red list with a green splash. Basically you remplace the Red with Blue equivalents and green with the black equivalents.
This helps give budget players who don't like aggro/burn another option.
And yet I should have picked up on that. lol. Sorry that it doesn't fit.
Well really everything but the dragonfly picture is okay by me. The dragonfly is just silly imho. None of them knock my socks off as I said in my previous post but most of them are workman like and show the context of the card.
Wow, you are right :) My bad!
Great article!
I think as long as you have the mentality that you are going to start off kind of slow you’ll be fine.
Singleton perfectly embodies the process of incremental growth. As your collection grows, so does your knowledge of card value and deck building imo.
I read one of Tarmotog’s articles introducing me to the format.
Started off as a Green/Red player since it was rather cheap to build/Pilot (Cheaper than you think actually). Ran maybe 4 non-basic lands and was pretty solid. Actually, it might have been Island Go’s deck list lol.
Then I became a Green/Black Rock player Singleton player and once my collection fleshed out so did my decks.
I added white into my deck for Doran I plopped down tix for a Vindicate.
Then blue splash for Gifts Ungiven came into the picture… then Zur the Enchanter came soon after which meant the purchase of Pernicious Deed.
One of the reasons why 100 Card Singleton is one of my favorite formats is that once you get 1 copy of the card… you’re done.
I really look forward to new releases because its fun deciding which single copy of a card I’m going to get.
Unless it’s a Masters Edition set (ugh… ) I typically only buy 3 or 4 cards with every new set. So that being said, the upkeep for singleton is rather cheap.
Laters,
Philip aka Neoshinji on mtgo
Actually, the article never refers to pauper or rarity or commons.
This comment was from me, I thought I was logged in at the time.
I have been doing a lot of playing around with the art files recently in the client. While I haven't really altered the art, I do enjoy switching to use various versions of the art. For example I like the Urza's Treetop art much better so I just swapped out the new versions art. Same with Demonic Tutor, City of Brass, Triskelion, Hymn to Tourach, and many other older cards.
The one thing I have customized is that I recently made full art dual lands, which is fairly easy to do if you are decent with graphics software, since the dual lands all have their own card frame file. The card frames get laid over top of the artwork in the client, so anything you edit on the frame will always show on top of the artwork in the client. Thus you can just put your image right into the frame file to get the image to take up the whole frame.
Thank you for the compliments!
Tutors are a big topic, and yes I could write an article on tutoring.
Much of this format is built on tutors, despite the fact that the really good black tutors are banned. Combo, for instance would probably not be competitive without a sizeable number of tutors.
The reason I didn't delve into tutors is mainly a cost issue. When you start building your deck around tutors, you are generally looking at a more expensive deck.
I focused my attention on aggro/burn strategies in this article because those are generally the cheapest strategies overall.
As soon as you talk about tutors, especially blue tutors, you'll looking at playing Force of Will and Mana Drain.
Wizards posts decklists from the weekend challenges on their site, however it's really hard to get a feel for deck types by just looking at decklists.
A better option is to watch the replays after the weekend challenge tournaments. They only stay up for a couple of days, so you have to look at them close to when the actual event took place on Saturday or Sunday.
And of course PureMTGO has dozens of articles on 100 singleton in the archives.
1) I liked the article, but it was really wordy to be talking about essentially one deck. Perhaps more formatting would have helped.
2) Bitterblossom seems like a neat idea. Let us know how that plays out
3) Last and biggest one. This deck is supposed to hate on Dredge - hard. But the tourney results from the past week don't seem to have born that out. Dredge runs up 5 perfect tourneys and as you mentioned, we got one out of this deck early in the next week's worth. And, maybe I missed it, but I didn't actually see any part of the article where it performed against dredge.
While I realize this article was about this specific deck, I wouldn't put too much stock in the deck as a meta solution until the big boy (dredge) loses it's edge because of it. To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't be surprised to see any well-tuned (and I think you've done well with this deck) combo deck survive against the field in much the same manner. Perhaps your team could start looking and testing other decks to see if that is true - I would find that a much more interesting article.
Have fun at the pro tour~ =)
No - the Colossus. With the 7th edition art.
Okay - my bad. The Dreadnought.
:)
Anonymously posting negatively is one of the most immature things one can do on an internet forum. What a loser. Bazaar has always been cordial, and I've played against him a number of times.
Whiffy, this article is a really great deck primer. Before FTV, I played a few dailies with UB Painter's Stone and just got destroyed (1-3, 0-2 drop, 0-2 drop). With Tinker, I added Darksteel (didn't even think to go with the evasive shrouded guy), but still didn't get great results. With the dominance of dredge, maindecking Leyline in just about any deck is a smart idea, making the singleton Helm a very smart play.
I think I'll toy with my build to add that aspect, and see if I get better results.
Some thoughts that I had and are included in my current build:
1. Singleton Crucible of Worlds paired with Strip Mine and 3 Wastelands - with more lands, Mox Diamond can come in as well
2. Enlightened Tutor - I only own 2, or I'd test all iterations - can get most of the win conditions and I'm in white
3. I also play with countermagic but I'm starting to think your version without it will be more consistent.
Let me know what you think.
The Wretched recently became available on mtgo and has always been my favorite mtg art.
I love the deck! It sounds like fun not just assembling the combo, but also deciding which combo to go for. So many decisions! Like you said, definitely practice with it. The decklists certainly aren't obvious.
Nice catchup on the Classic meta, too.
Shadow Warden - because of the shadow creatures + aura lockdown strategy. Also, Soul Warden.
Alternates:
The Intangibles
The Blue Dungeon
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P.S. My deck contained 3x Fade Away too!
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anything about art is by its nature highly subjective, and the whole article should be read with a big 'IMHO' in mind. Having said that, I think WotC have become a lot better at, as you say, matching the art to the card.
My problem with Mr Foglio is that he is inconsistent, and often seems to go for the cheap laugh when he is capable of much more. Check out Conch Horn or Runed Arch to see what the guy can do when he tries. Then have a look at Cloud Pirates or (especially) Recycle to see what he puts out when he's just going through the motions.
As for Giant Growth, I'd be interested in knowing which version knocked your socks off.